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Old 12-28-2012, 11:14 AM   #46
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Default Re: How good the Lakers would have been with Lebron instead of Kobe?

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dwight shooting jumpers must be the recipe for success. legod

I don't remember Shaq, Ben Wallace, or a young Varejao ever shooting jumpers. When has LeBron ever played with big man like Shaq (laker days) or Bynum? He didn't even play with a good wing player until he came to Miami. People say LeBron needs shooters. Even though history shows Kobe needs a stacked frontcourt to win. Which would you rather have? Prime Shaq or Mo Williams? Gasol or Jamison? Lamar Odom would have been the best player LeBron ever played with in his Cleveland days. He came off the friggin bench for LA.
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Old 12-28-2012, 11:21 AM   #47
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Default Re: How good the Lakers would have been with Lebron instead of Kobe?

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If Lebron was on the team, then Nash wouldn't be needed because Lebron needs the ball to be effective and Nash is not Ray Allen. Lebron needs to shooters to be effective and he had that in the Cavs and the Heat but the Lakers don't have shooters on this team, they never had to be honest. If Gasol or Dwight has the ball he's just gonna stand in the corner because he can't play off ball as he's pretty bad at it.

I don't think he would've done a better job than Kobe in this Lakers team to be honest. The reason he works with the Heat also is because he has three current all stars backing him up with great shooters from the 3 point line (one who is the best in history). And if you see how he uses Bosh, Gasol and Dwight are going to struggle with Lebron, way more than Kobe at least.

So in my opinion the Lakers won't be better with Lebron than Kobe from a basketball standpoint.

THere is of course things I can't measure about Lebron like his willingness to pass the ball and set the offense but meh...

Lebron and Bosh PnR are pretty effective especially when bosh hits that pop out elbow jumper, i imagine gasol will be as effective as bosh in running that. Now since gasol is more a post player and a decent passer, him getting position through PnR with lebron would lead to dwight getting better looks. From defence rotating over or a back door cut from dwight or lebron sliding out to 3pt line etc... etc... Given how heat handles the ball now, i would say its lebron 55% wade 35% 10% for chalmers/cole, now give that 45% to nash and i would it would be pretty efficient ball sharing with either lebron of nash intiating offense.

Though the bench is still horrible, come play off time it shouldn't matter as much thats why you still can't underestimate the current lakers yet. But i think with lebron on the team and nash the shot distribution will be pretty good considering how them both are good passers and will find open teammates.
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Old 12-28-2012, 12:06 PM   #48
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Default Re: How good the Lakers would have been with Lebron instead of Kobe?

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Lakers win the title in 09, 10, 11, 12 and ESPECIALLY this year.


I'd forget about Kobe in a second if LeBron could add 2 more titles to the Lakers collection, especially if it took one of Bostons. You might as well give the Lakers 2004 and 2005 while your at it.
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Old 12-28-2012, 12:29 PM   #49
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Default Re: How good the Lakers would have been with Lebron instead of Kobe?

It's going to happen soon enough when LeBron opts out in 2014 and he signs with the Lakers.

Bye bye Kobe, in with the king.
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Old 12-28-2012, 12:36 PM   #50
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I'd forget about Kobe in a second if LeBron could add 2 more titles to the Lakers collection, especially if it took one of Bostons. You might as well give the Lakers 2004 and 2005 while your at it.

There's no shame in losing to the 07-08 C's though. That's certainly one of the top 10 teams in league history (arguably the GOAT defensively), plus the desperation factor for those three guys.
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There's no shame in losing to the 07-08 C's though. That's certainly one of the top 10 teams in league history (arguably the GOAT defensively), plus the desperation factor for those three guys.


08 Celtics are pretty overrated imo. They got taken to 7 games by sub-.500 Hawks team, a Cleveland team thats 2nd best player was Delonte West, a good Detroit team, and a Lakers team without Bynum and Ariza.
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Old 12-28-2012, 01:18 PM   #52
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Mo, West, Lebron, Varejao, Z
Gibson, Hughes, Lebron, Gooden, Z
Chalmers, Wade, Lebron, Battier, Bosh

Lebron took all of those teams to conference finals, finals and championship. I bet he wouldn't have a problem with this team:
Nash, Lebron, Metta, Gasol, Howard
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Default Re: How good the Lakers would have been with Lebron instead of Kobe?

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Mo, West, Lebron, Varejao, Z
Gibson, Hughes, Lebron, Gooden, Z
Chalmers, Wade, Lebron, Battier, Bosh

Lebron took all of those teams to conference finals, finals and championship. I bet he wouldn't have a problem with this team:
Nash, Lebron, Metta, Gasol, Howard

Is he still playing in the JV conference in the fantasy scenario?
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Guaranteed 3-peat.
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Default Re: How good the Lakers would have been with Lebron instead of Kobe?

LeBron turns everybody into a spot up shooter... just imagining Dwight siting at the 3 point line is...
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Default Re: How good the Lakers would have been with Lebron instead of Kobe?

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Mo, West, Lebron, Varejao, Z
Gibson, Hughes, Lebron, Gooden, Z
Chalmers, Wade, Lebron, Battier, Bosh

Lebron took all of those teams to conference finals, finals and championship. I bet he wouldn't have a problem with this team:
Nash, Lebron, Metta, Gasol, Howard

Neither would a prime Kobe this thread is pointless
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