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Old 01-09-2013, 10:19 AM   #616
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So you all worship one of LamarOdom's people?

Seems like an automatic disadvantage...
And a great advantage for me

edit: wrong account my bad.
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facts like this should be legit in the judging of how the geopolitics would play out imo, makes it more fun. if you want thrust christianity on your entire society, the fact that the religion's hero and messiah is alive and while promoting another nation should be relevant

where's jesus at? you should work at building that alliance asap or you're fked

then again jesus, being adament and all about international solidarity and breaking down barriers between different peoples... he might well have another crucifixion in store for him lol
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orwell & goebells

this is a cool team. lotta personality between augustus and bismarck but i reckon the divide you came up with is a good one, augustus gets to be the hometown hero while da bidniz parades a face of authority intimidation around the world stage.. good fair split that should satisfy the ego in eithe rof em

and didn't plato's ideal state basically ban the free creation of arts and music to prevent the poets and their effeminate friends from pussifying the population? some culture lol. though i don't see too much conflict between goebells and plato tbh, depending on how sincere you think plato is in his politics. both seem equally condescending and disdainful towards the masses lol

picking orwell makes absolutely no sense though, surrounded by the 'enlightened tyrants' and passive technocrats like he is. he's an activist, how could he psosibly fit into your system? dude will be totally marginalized and he'll eventually (or perhaps immediately) defect, maybe face treason charges. i guess you could argue his inevitable show trial and public execution could be good for public faith in their gov't.. lol



these things are great, i always wanted to try one. nice work fellas, im enjoying the writeups

also, vapid as a political prisoner

Orwell was just a filler pick. Orwell's worst nightmare is Goebells but atleast there will be a critic to mainstream culture which will ensure that people will be more open minded, right?
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So you all worship one of LamarOdom's people?

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It depends with my relationship with lamar. If hes against me, I gonna call BS on Christ in my propaganda filled empire, and people will believe. If hes with me, then its all even better.
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Orwell was just a filler pick. Orwell's worst nightmare is Goebells but atleast there will be a critic to mainstream culture which will ensure that people will be more open minded, right?
orwell is a diehard leftist revolutionary and a visionary anarchist. there's no way in hell he'll stop generating internal strife and criticizing the state until he brings about its downfall. he's also articulate and crafty enough to present an alternative to goebell's propaganda that the masses will eat right up.. joe's got state funding on his side sure, but assuming somewhat free economic activity, orwell and his activist infrastucture will find funding somehow.

he'll be your gadfly but it won't do your country any good. your only hope is to kill him early and hope he's remembered as a rebel traitor rather than a righteous dissident. goebells should be able to paint him that way once his only rival is safely eliminated
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JESUS IS AMERICAN??

oh snap
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Ridonks not too late for you to be a judge!
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:41 AM   #623
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facts like this should be legit in the judging of how the geopolitics would play out imo, makes it more fun. if you want thrust christianity on your entire society, the fact that the religion's hero and messiah is alive and while promoting another nation should be relevant

where's jesus at? you should work at building that alliance asap or you're fked

then again jesus, being adament and all about international solidarity and breaking down barriers between different peoples... he might well have another crucifixion in store for him lol

Its crazy in some way. Did he reborn in USA or what? And religion already exists for millenniums and messiah still lives. But youre right, i need to get lamar next to me.
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whats the judging process?
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Lamar I offer you alliance. That zombie american jesus is getting into Constantine nerves.
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whats the judging process?
Judges so far are Kniokas and I. This is taken from the sign up thread

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Similar to the music draft, you can let your creative juices flow as to how you want to structure your government. Every single human being born is free to be chosen. So you can make a splintered country of competing cities ala Renaissance Italy, a propaganda filled dictatorship with a citizen body whipped into a fervor like WW2 Germany, or hippie colony of artists and philosophers. However, you must AT LEAST specify what type of government your nation-state will be using, as at the end of the draft you'll get an opportunity to explain how your nation would perform in the following criteria before I make a final ranking:

1. Creativity (Did you think outside the box?)
2. Citizen Happiness Index (Are your citizens satisfied?)
3. Defense (How will you survive around warmongering neighbors?)
4. Economy (Free market? Mercantilist? Centrally planned?)
5. Political Stability (Are your individuals backstabbers or team players?)
6. Human Rights (Self Explanatory)
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Or if you dont wanna my aussie commies mates will destroy you with his navy.
Right, anti hero?

Im not the best negotiator.
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China - Resource rich, diverse landmass. The govt style will be a socialist democracy.

John Maynard Keynes - The father of modern macroeconomics. Keynes will be chairman of the central bank in the country and will be free to use monetary policy as he sees fit to boost/stabilize the economy. He is very charismatic and influential and will have a big impact on the economic policy within the country.

Benjamin Franklin - I see Franklin in a Secretary of State sort of role but I think its best if he is given the freedom to use his talent and influence more freely within the government. He can serve as a counselor to Deng, a foreign diplomat, or an administrator in charge of science and innovation.

Richard Feynman - Noble prize winning physicist who will be the head researcher for the country. He introduced the concepts of quantum computing and nanotechnology which he will collaborate on with Alan Turing in order to make China a technological superpower. He was also part of the nuclear bomb project which means China will be well defended.

Mayer Rothschild - I don't see any official role for him in the government. He will simply do his thing in the private financial sector. He is known as the father of international finance and he will help China's financial sector to be the best in the world.

Deng Xiaoping - He will be the prime minister. He is known as basically the only member of the original Chinese Communist party that knew WTF he was doing and is known for being a pragmatic leader. He will obviously lean toward more socialist policies but, since he will not have a monopoly on political power like the Communist Party has in China, he will have to rely more on his pragmatic nature to build a socialist democracy.

Louis Brandeis - Highly regarded Supreme Court justice who was known for his anti-monopoly stances along with his defense of free speech and right to privacy. He will be the leader of the justice system in China and will maintain the freedoms of the citizens.

Fredreich Hayek - Keynes' main rival during their lifetimes. Hayek is almost a cult hero to free market economists and libertarians. He will be the head economic advisor to Deng and will provide an ideological counterbalance to his socialist leanings. He will help to strike the appropriate balance of free market economics and regulation in China.

Alan Turing - Mathematical genius who is known for his work in computer science. Turing will work with Feynman to help China be a technological giant as they work to reach the true potential of computer technology (nanotech, AI, quantum computing, etc.). He also worked as a cryptanalysis during WWII and this experience along with his computer genius will be used by the Defense Department. He will help to ensure the security of the country's information networks as well as launching cyberterrorist attacks against belligerent nations in order to cripple their defense network.

Saladin - One of the most successful military generals in history and he is also known for his wisdom and restraint. He is exactly the type of military genius with a strong moral code that I want leading the armed forces of China.

Monty Jones - He is a scientist who has spent his career studying agricultural advancements in order to solve the problem of hunger in Africa. He is famous for creating a new strain of rice that dramatically increased the crop yields in Africa. As an agriculture expert (especially with rice crops), he will fit perfectly into China and will help to ensure a food supply for the population as well as making China a world leader in agricultural exports.

Elon Musk - Musk is a prominent innovator and entrepreneur who is the CEO of Tesla Motors and SpaceX. His goal is to make environmentally friendly technology and space travel cheap and sustainable. He will be given substantial resources to make advancements in space exploration and clean energy technologies that will help China be decades ahead of the other nations in terms of energy and resources.
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oh so its just a one time judgment thing? maybe i'll try to put something up but i can't guarantee anything. i don't get on the web very often these days lol

you guys should figure out some process of determining diplomacy and alliance. i have no idea how you'd do it but that's the only real way you could ever determine something like defense. just looking over the list of countries chosen.. the america's are packed! maybe alliances would just be of the typical north-south variety, ven-bra and can-usa-mex but who knows with the leaders that were chosen. australia is a little isolated and has china hemming it in to the north, and whereas china could well expand eastward, it'll have to keep a constant eye on its commie neighborus to the south. russia and saudi arabia are probably in the best positions... there wasn't a single european country taken? saudi arabia can pretty much expand westward with absolutley no resistance, dominate the world's oil resources, and take most of the mediterranean, all of the rich mid-east oil fields, dominate the east african coast and probably establish outposts at the cape and certain west african points since its only deterrent will be a potential south american alliance that will at least start out far too occupied in latin america and the gulf of mexico establishing firm borders.....


haha and so on and so forth, no end of possibilities you could come up with. i guess this whole thing is bullshit anyway so its impossible for judgments to be anything but. fun to think about tho. so yea i might try to do 'judgments' but im not sure i'll end up bothering
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From my understanding it is just a one time judgement thing.
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