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Old 12-31-2012, 03:44 PM   #16
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Default Re: Marc Stein : Bargnani "a lock to be moved"

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The point wasn't about their long term ability and committment to the team, but rather the fact that they are both great assets who potentially could leave us for nothing. This isn't Bargnani we're talking about, these are 2 very serviceable starting quality point guards that a lot of teams could use.
Unfortunately with Calderon, the Raptors just held onto him way too long. There was absolutely no reason for him to be on last year's team that was supposedly tanking (yea, sure Mr. Colangelo). I think him walking with the Raptors getting nothing in return is exactly what will happen at this point.

Or he'll get a 4 year $40 million extension.
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Old 12-31-2012, 03:48 PM   #17
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Default Re: Marc Stein : Bargnani "a lock to be moved"

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Or he'll get a 4 year $40 million extension.

Let's not give Bryan any ideas, ok?
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Old 12-31-2012, 04:01 PM   #18
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Default Re: Marc Stein : Bargnani "a lock to be moved"

As of right now I feel that getting rid of Bargnani is addition by subtraction. Anything we could get for him would be fine. 1st's (from good teams), 2nd and young developing players. I think we should try avoiding picking up good but already peaked players with big contracts (Amare, Granger, Ellis wouldnt mind Gay though). Even look at how we're playing without him, the league can even see it and they know his stock is pretty low. No one wants a big that cant defend and you can find scoring pretty easily. So everyone's going to buy low.

So everyone that's saying wait it out till he comes back to lift his stock, that's prolly an unlikely.

And same with Calderon. At the end of the year he probably will walk unless we give him a big contract, which we dont want. I love Calderon and appreciate his time here but we dont need him. We should even try just sending him to the lakers for their 1st and 2nd.

So overall if we can turn Bargnani, Calderon (+ maybe even Klieza, Fields) into a 1st rounders, 2nd rounders and/or bench players, young prospects that'll be fine.

and if we can continue with a lineup of Lowry, Derozan, Ross, Davis, and J-Val, with Amir, LucasIII, Anderson, Fields on the bench that'd be huge for our young player's developments
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Old 12-31-2012, 06:29 PM   #19
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Default Re: Marc Stein : Bargnani "a lock to be moved"

From a raps point of view I think you have to go to Sacramento first- like them or not those are 2 of the most talented guys out on the trade market.


But man am I hoping for the miracle of Bargnani ending up on ny
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Old 12-31-2012, 06:36 PM   #20
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Default Re: Marc Stein : Bargnani "a lock to be moved"

Raps get morrow, petro, d collison, r brewer, Vince carter, atl 1st, ny 1st

Raps give- Bargnani, Calderon, fields, Amir j, uh-oh d derozen

Save 20 mill this season and 30+ next. Only Vince has another year on deal.

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Old 12-31-2012, 06:38 PM   #21
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Default Re: Marc Stein : Bargnani "a lock to be moved"

The only way we can trade bargs is for a player on another team who is in the same position. Ilyasova and dunleavy for bargs and pietrus. would be the best case scenario IMO. Probably a better trade for the raps.
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Old 12-31-2012, 07:49 PM   #22
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Default Re: Marc Stein : Bargnani "a lock to be moved"

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The only way we can trade bargs is for a player on another team who is in the same position. Ilyasova and dunleavy for bargs and pietrus. would be the best case scenario IMO. Probably a better trade for the raps.
I don't think you can trade pietrus- I don't know if ny could trade brewer even though he's been there the whole season.

I don't think you should set yoursf at "only trade for same position". Position can't matter in a Bargnani trade or the value won't be there
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Default Re: Marc Stein : Bargnani "a lock to be moved"

Demarcus Cousins anyone?? Would be a sick front line him and JV if he could get his act together.
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Default Re: Marc Stein : Bargnani "a lock to be moved"

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Demarcus Cousins anyone?? Would be a sick front line him and JV if he could get his act together.


That's a huge if.
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We wait, and we pray.
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