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Old 01-01-2013, 07:21 PM   #61
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Who is making a fuss? Essentially you want people to say Kim K is going to be a good mom, even though if this was someone we personally know we'd all say, Really? That stuck up dude and that girl who got married for attention are having a baby together?

Don't hate on those of us who are not starstruck.

They can't do any worst than the non-celebrity couples having kids who grow into depressed maniacs and shoot up movie theaters and schools. Just saying, i don't see the big deal, let alone all the negative comments. Its unhealthy to spew hate
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Old 01-02-2013, 03:59 PM   #62
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Eh, i'll take Kim K having children over 99% of the rest of the country. Its not like American culture is shit because a bunch of Kardashians are populating the place. Its the people that bitch and gossip about celebrities yet wish they were them that are reproducing that is the problem.
Why are you defending them so hard? Are you saying that Kim K and Snooki would be fantastic moms? You think the child would actually end up normal?

We're not sprewing hate, we simply don't care either way. But if you're asking for our opinion, then yes, it's probably not gonna end well.

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They act dumb. They sound dumb. You do that and i conclude you are dumb. just like i would for anyone i meet. Dumb does not equal bad person, but anyone looking at either of these people as not self absorbed and stupid needs to tell me exactly what they are looking at because i don't see it.

I laugh at everyone talking about waht good parents they will be, etc. - does anyone see these two people still married five years from now and acting as a family unit? serious? Kim K who gets married so her TV show doesn't lack a plot for a new season is someone we need to rep as a wonderful human?
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Old 01-02-2013, 04:06 PM   #63
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They can't do any worst than the non-celebrity couples having kids who grow into depressed maniacs and shoot up movie theaters and schools. Just saying, i don't see the big deal, let alone all the negative comments. Its unhealthy to spew hate
It's not hate. I think they will be bad parents. You don't. Where is the hate here?

Trust me, parenthood and attention whore don't mesh well.
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Old 01-02-2013, 04:13 PM   #64
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BTW, her agency announced that they the pregnancy will definitely be followed and her baby will get it's own reality show. Already announced.

So please don't tell me i can't question her parenting ability.
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Old 01-02-2013, 04:30 PM   #65
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BTW, her agency announced that they the pregnancy will definitely be followed and her baby will get it's own reality show. Already announced.

So please don't tell me i can't question her parenting ability.

You can't. Its just two people who happen to be celebrities. They can't do any worst than the people we aren't making topics about who definitely shouldn't have children. Ya know, people with no income, addicts, people of that nature. They reproduce all they want, i mention people should need a license to parent, and suddenly i'm insane and infringing on human rights. But Kanye/Kim K have a baby, two people we know nothing about outside of what we read in a paper or see on a screen, and suddenly we're qualified to single these people out as the two who definitely shouldn't procreate.

Sounds like hate to me. We do way too much dehumanizing of these celebrities, and wonder why they appear crazy to us.
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Old 01-02-2013, 04:34 PM   #66
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You can't. Its just two people who happen to be celebrities. They can't do any worst than the people we aren't making topics about who definitely shouldn't have children. Ya know, people with no income, addicts, people of that nature. They reproduce all they want, i mention people should need a license to parent, and suddenly i'm insane and infringing on human rights. But Kanye/Kim K have a baby, two people we know nothing about outside of what we read in a paper or see on a screen, and suddenly we're qualified to single these people out as the two who definitely shouldn't procreate.

Sounds like hate to me. We do way too much dehumanizing of these celebrities, and wonder why they appear crazy to us.
good post + Juan

They will atleast provided for this kid that will come out we have a couple outside my house that has no income except collecting trash and I think she has already had 6 kids and is currently carrying a child again, these kids will grow up to be no better then there folk and will probably be beggars or criminals by the age of 10.
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Old 01-02-2013, 04:34 PM   #67
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You can't. Its just two people who happen to be celebrities. They can't do any worst than the people we aren't making topics about who definitely shouldn't have children. Ya know, people with no income, addicts, people of that nature. They reproduce all they want, i mention people should need a license to parent, and suddenly i'm insane and infringing on human rights. But Kanye/Kim K have a baby, two people we know nothing about outside of what we read in a paper or see on a screen, and suddenly we're qualified to single these people out as the two who definitely shouldn't procreate.

Sounds like hate to me. We do way too much dehumanizing of these celebrities, and wonder why they appear crazy to us.

We are talking about two specific people. Where did anyone say they will be worse parents that everyone else? And what i bolded, where the **** did that come into the conversation?

Note: Kim K puts every second she is allowed to of her life on TV. Do you know who she is? She's famous for being famous, for showing her life. You are talking about her like she's this secret of a human being.

People who argue "there are worse things" are just trying to excuse something else. Kim K and Kanye strike me as likely to be poor parents. The fact there are people out there who should be in jail and are 1,000 times worse is very true, and relevant why?

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Old 01-02-2013, 04:39 PM   #68
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BTW, her agency announced that they the pregnancy will definitely be followed and her baby will get it's own reality show. Already announced.

So please don't tell me i can't question her parenting ability.
You care way too much about her parenting skills or lack of...in the end, she's raising her kid, not yours.
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Old 01-02-2013, 05:52 PM   #69
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Do you guys ever sit there and think "What the f*ck am I thinking about?"
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Old 01-02-2013, 09:33 PM   #70
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We are talking about two specific people. Where did anyone say they will be worse parents that everyone else? And what i bolded, where the **** did that come into the conversation?

Note: Kim K puts every second she is allowed to of her life on TV. Do you know who she is? She's famous for being famous, for showing her life. You are talking about her like she's this secret of a human being.

People who argue "there are worse things" are just trying to excuse something else. Kim K and Kanye strike me as likely to be poor parents. The fact there are people out there who should be in jail and are 1,000 times worse is very true, and relevant why?

I made a topic a while back saying that people should need a license in order to have children and almost everyone flipped out saying i was crazy, that no one has the right to say who should and shouldn't be able to reproduce.
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:22 PM   #71
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I made a topic a while back saying that people should need a license in order to have children and almost everyone flipped out saying i was crazy, that no one has the right to say who should and shouldn't be able to reproduce.
i don't think it's feasible to carry out, but i get your logic. I'm assuming you are young because you are translating my "i think Kim K will be a bad mom" to "Kim K is a bad person". It's not the same.

BTW, People need to stop telling me what i can and cannot "care" about. If someone asks me if i like the sky blue or dark blue and i answer, that didn't mean i spent three years researching.
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:36 PM   #72
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I wonder if they play this song while having sex.
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:38 PM   #73
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You can't. Its just two people who happen to be celebrities. They can't do any worst than the people we aren't making topics about who definitely shouldn't have children. Ya know, people with no income, addicts, people of that nature. They reproduce all they want, i mention people should need a license to parent, and suddenly i'm insane and infringing on human rights. But Kanye/Kim K have a baby, two people we know nothing about outside of what we read in a paper or see on a screen, and suddenly we're qualified to single these people out as the two who definitely shouldn't procreate.

Sounds like hate to me. We do way too much dehumanizing of these celebrities, and wonder why they appear crazy to us.
here is what you dont seem to get. We know an awful lot about them, because they put much of their private life on public display. You dont just detach your real personality and put on a mask when the camera is on. Kim K is a vapid, self-obsessed bimbo in real life too! and kanye is not much better. Conspicuous consumption for the sake of appearance. Reminds me of the Family Guy where chick from the hills is a PhD in physics? off the set. Sure, Kim K is a deep and sophisticated human being.
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:43 PM   #74
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i don't think it's feasible to carry out, but i get your logic. I'm assuming you are young because you are translating my "i think Kim K will be a bad mom" to "Kim K is a bad person". It's not the same.

BTW, People need to stop telling me what i can and cannot "care" about. If someone asks me if i like the sky blue or dark blue and i answer, that didn't mean i spent three years researching.

I'm not translating it that way at all. Age has little to do with life experiences teaching you lessons; one of those lessons being that most people are judging 'KimYe' as potential bad parents based on what they've seen on TV and read in the media. I just can't find it in myself to act like i know these two individuals based on tv and news scoops.

I'm not saying they'll be good or not as parents, and i really don't care to think about it much. I do care that the general public is overly obsessed with judging people they have very little knowledge of just because they appear larger than life. Its a very unwarranted hate that says less about the people that are being hated and more about the distant strangers doing the hating.

I would probably be able to excuse the hate and outrage if this was a forum populated by women, but men? The male species is really on the decline, huh?
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Old 01-02-2013, 10:53 PM   #75
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here is what you dont seem to get. We know an awful lot about them, because they put much of their private life on public display. You dont just detach your real personality and put on a mask when the camera is on. Kim K is a vapid, self-obsessed bimbo in real life too! and kanye is not much better. Conspicuous consumption for the sake of appearance. Reminds me of the Family Guy where chick from the hills is a PhD in physics? off the set. Sure, Kim K is a deep and sophisticated human being.

Until you've had some sort of personal relationship with these people, you know nothing. Chappelle talked about this a little bit, how when you get so big, you ceased to be human to everyone below you. He talked about how everyone called Martin Lawrence crazy because of the gun incident where he claimed people were after him, and Chappelle said himself that one reason he walked away from it all was because Hollywood is that crazy; that you can end up in this place where everyone has no clue what's really going on, but watches your reaction to the chaos they're unaware of and labels you the maniac.

Kim K films most of her life, so what? She's raking in the dough while she's young enough to attract the money. She's known to have ****ed a few ballers, so we call her a gold digger, yet no one says a thing about America's sweetheart Taylor Swift having been ****ed and dumped by most of Hollywood. Most men on this planet would trade a limb to be with that woman, and most women would probably trade their husband for her fame, no matter how controversial it is. Yet until they get the opportunity to make that deal, its hate, envy, and judge all the way to the grave.

And Kanye, they say he's an ego maniac...ugh, this whole country's foundation is the promotion of self; expand your ego. One guy standing out too much for his and suddenly he's a douche. Personally i see a guy still dealing with his mother's passing, and i know personally how that goes and how most people expect you to just get over it, but only you understand that you can't just do that.

No one has the right to judge either of these two nor act like they have some moral superiority to say how low they are and how they'd make awful parents.

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