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Old 01-03-2013, 05:21 PM   #46
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Am I missing something or do the Mavericks currently hold one of the longest post season streaks in the league? I believe only second to the Spurs. They've made a few finals trips and won championship. Had tons of talent through out the years. Mark Cuban was obviously a big part in all of that.

Not sure I'd be using him in a negative light.

The Mavs are obviously successful, and the Jerry Jones comparison was bad judgment on my behalf, but Mark Cuban makes his own players feel very uncomfortable and many others question exactly what he's doing as an owner and why he does what he does.

On the issue with Jerry Jones though... he's obviously NEVER going to win another title without a real GM. Just not happening...
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The Mavs are obviously successful, and the Jerry Jones comparison was bad judgment on my behalf, but Mark Cuban makes his own players feel very uncomfortable and many others question exactly what he's doing as an owner and why he does what he does.

On the issue with Jerry Jones though... he's obviously NEVER going to win another title without a real GM. Just not happening...
and why is that obvious? what is he doing wrong Joshua? explain yourself
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and why is that obvious? what is he doing wrong Joshua? explain yourself

The proof is in the pudding; no explanation needed.
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that's what I thought...
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that's what I thought...

Wait a minute, are you suggesting Jerry Jones (in today's league) is good for his franchise? Are you suggesting that Jerry Jones playing GM for his own franchise is actually beneficial to his Dallas Cowboys? Is that what you're saying?!



... and you question this as if it needs an explanation.



I keep forgetting that our world is rather different. In your world Tony Romo is Top 4-5 QB and Jerry Jones is in the midst of formulating the next Superbowl team.
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well, I would ask you to explain what Jerry is doing wrong, but we know how that goes...
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well, I would ask you to explain what Jerry is doing wrong, but we know how that goes...

A better question is, what is Jerry doing right?

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A better question is, what is Jerry doing right?

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seriously Josh, tell me what Jerry is doing wrong and what you would do differently? can you do that or no?

If you aren't capable of explaining what he is doing wrong then how can you say anything?..."uh, he is bad, just because I said so..."

furthermore, how many Cowboy games have you watched this year? do you even have any clue of what you are talking about? Why should I even waste my time replying to you? You have done NOTHING to show that you have any NFL knowledge at all. You don't even belong in this section.
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seriously Josh, tell me what Jerry is doing wrong and what you would do differently? can you do that or no?

If you aren't capable of explaining what he is doing wrong then how can you say anything?..."uh, he is bad, just because I said so..."

furthermore, how many Cowboy games have you watched this year? do you even have any clue of what you are talking about? Why should I even waste my time replying to you? You have done NOTHING to show that you have any NFL knowledge at all. You don't even belong in this section.

You keep trying to toss the ball back in my court, but here's the simple truth. The Cowboys missed the playoffs, and they easily controlled their own destiny, but failed to deliver when it mattered most. A huge part of that is on Romo, and Jerry Jones is the biggest Romo supporter on the planet minus yourself.

Jerry Jones likes to believe he's an owner with the insight, NFL know-how, etc of an actual GM. Truth be told, he's living in the early 90's, and clearly, we're well into 2013 now. Jerry Jones isn't getting it done these days! Anyone with the slightest knowledge will easily tell you that - unless you're a homer Cowboys fan such as yourself.

You keep telling me to explain myself. To explain what Jerry Jones is doing wrong. Well, let's see here... how many head coaches have the Cowboys had in the past decade? A lot. How many QBs recently? Just one, Tony Romo. How many playoff wins under Romo? One!

In the regular season, Romo is a good QB... he wins games, but he also loses games, and most notably, he loses BIG games. This is what he does best. Give me a QB who wins when it matters most over a QB who just wins in the regular season but disappears when it comes to the real deal (post season).

Is Jerry Jones a copmplete idiot? Obviously not, but make no mistake about it, Dallas needs a real GM. I can understand you taking up for the guy being a fan and all, but hey, I'm a Bengals fan, and I'll be the first to tell you Mike Brown isn't GM worthy, and using Marvin Lewis as part time GM doesn't work either.

In fact PT, most Cowboys and Bengals fans would be logical and wise enough to swallow their pride and admit their team needs legit GMs and not owners trying to play the "I know football" card. Jerry Jones knows football, no doubt, but not to the extent of building a championship caliber team around him. IT ISN'T WORKING, obviously.

They don't make the playoffs, and when they do, they lose. Blame Jerry Jones. Blame Tony Romo. Blame whoever you want. Doesn't matter. Dallas Cowboys are losers. You however are too damn stubborn to admit they suck. You're too damn stubborn to admit Jerry Jones is the problem. According to you he's not the problem. You're too damn stubborn to admit Romo is the problem. According to you he's not the problem.

So instead of you asking all the ?'s and demanding I explain myself. Why don't you actually do some explaining, huh? Tell us why Dallas can't win? Tell us why a rookie QB made your veteran QB look like a complete scrub with his what, three or four INTs? All I see YOU do is mount up excuse after excuse as to why Romo is an elite QB regardless of how many times he fouls everything up, and keeps holding your franchise down.

I know I mentioned stubborn above, but damn PT, wouldn't you agree you're pretty damn stubborn when it comes to your Cowboys and the ends you'll go to in defending them?

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again, what has Jerry Jones done wrong?...all you wrote was a bunch of "it isn't working, Romo isn't getting it done, Jerry clearly can't do it, it isn't the 90s, etc etc etc"...lots of text there, but no substance

what EXACTLY has Jerry Jones done wrong this year? What would you have done differently?
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again, what has Jerry Jones done wrong?...all you wrote was a bunch of "it isn't working, Romo isn't getting it done, Jerry clearly can't do it, it isn't the 90s, etc etc etc"...lots of text there, but no substance

what EXACTLY has Jerry Jones done wrong this year? What would you have done differently?

What would I have done differently? I'm not an owner. I'm not a GM. You can keep playing this "you explain" game all day long. We can ride this merry-go-round until 3 AM, but what I'm telling you is the cold hard facts, which is the Cowboys have been the league's biggest disappointment the past decade and a half. That Tony Romo doesn't win when he's under pressure in big games. That Jerry Jones OBVIOUSLY isn't doing something that works, otherwise, the Cowboys might have actually done something the Eagles and Giants have done in the past decade and a half, WHICH IS MAKE THE PLAYOFFS CONSISTENTLY, AND WIN PLAYOFF GAMES.

The simple TRUTH, the actual FACTS, REAL TALK and all that clearly spells out that the Dallas Cowboys flat out suck. Does that entail Tony Romo being the problem? Some would say yes. Does that entail Jerry Jones being the problem? Some would say yes. Both perhaps? Some would say yes. Instead of me having to explain why the Cowboys suck, why don't you (since you're the Cowboys fan, not me) explain what they're doing right?

I'm just an unbiased fan from the outside looking in and making a simple observation. YOU'RE the actual biased fan who is fighting tooth and nail in an effort to defend your Cowboys. So really, the "burden of proof" if you will, is on you, not me. So, ready, set go - YOU explain what Jerry Jones is doing right.

Are you happy with a .500 season missing the playoffs?

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I heard he left a paper trail and the NCAA is going to be calling soon in Eugene. Google Will Lyles.

Chip Kelly will be coaching in the NFL this time (or minus a week) next season, imo.
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