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Old 01-02-2013, 02:40 PM   #16
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Sounds like Doc Rivers to me. I haven't seen the guy draw up a last second play in 2 years. I haven't seen him make real in game adjustments since before the 2010 finals. The team defense is worse and worse every season.
Doc Rivers was brilliant in the 2008 Finals. That was the only time I can recall that PJax was completely outcoached.

What is Karl's signature coaching moment? I can't think of any.
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most overrated coach in the league
very dumb rotations not giving key guys minutes.
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Actually, I think he is very overrated coach.

Karl is very overrated. He didn't do nothing but single handedly coach a forgetten franchise to the nba finals.
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Old 01-02-2013, 04:38 PM   #19
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Karl is very overrated. He didn't do nothing but single handedly coach a forgetten franchise to the nba finals.


That team was all about Kemp and Payton.
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That team was all about Kemp and Payton.

this is one of the dumbest things i've ever heard.

EVEN IF a team got to the finals based on the exploits of just two players, you still play 5 on 5 and you would need exceptional coaching to be able to get past the teams they did. They beat SAC, Houston and Utah with just two players I guess?

Second, this team was FAR from just Kemp and Payton, you clearly dont know what you are talking about. Detlef Schrempf, Sam Perkins, Hersey Hawkins are hardly nobodies. They were also one of the best defensive teams in the league that year. I guess Kemp and Payton defended all 5 players on the other team as well huh?

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Doc Rivers was brilliant in the 2008 Finals. That was the only time I can recall that PJax was completely outcoached.

What is Karl's signature coaching moment? I can't think of any.

Brilliant is a stretch, better than average is more like it. The Celtics just wanted it more and were the better team that year.

Karl brought the Sonics to the finals in 96. They defeated the 2 time defending champ Rockets, the Jazz who won the west the next two seasons, and took two games from the 96 Bulls.
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this is one of the dumbest things i've ever heard.

EVEN IF a team got to the finals based on the exploits of just two players, you still play 5 on 5 and you would need exceptional coaching to be able to get past the teams they did. They beat SAC, Houston and Utah with just two players I guess?

Second, this team was FAR from just Kemp and Payton, you clearly dont know what you are talking about. Detlef Schrempf, Sam Perkins, Hersey Hawkins are hardly nobodies. They were also one of the best defensive teams in the league that year. I guess Kemp and Payton defended all 5 players on the other team as well huh?

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If you can climb down from your little soapbox and unbunch your panties, notice that the thread is focused on George Karl and the question of how good he is as a coach.

My point was that the Seattle team which made the Finals was all about the players, not about Karl or his coaching. Kemp and Payton were the leaders, but I'm well aware that there were many other solid contributors.

Moron.
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Brilliant is a stretch, better than average is more like it. The Celtics just wanted it more and were the better team that year.

Karl brought the Sonics to the finals in 96. They defeated the 2 time defending champ Rockets, the Jazz who won the west the next two seasons, and took two games from the 96 Bulls.
The job that Doc did in 2008 was one of the best preparation and motivational coaching examples that I've ever witnessed. Remember that he was going up against the Zen master/ringmaster PJax, and that just about everyone gave Phil the big edge in that matchup before the series started.

Well, Doc won it handily, and the accomplishment deserves a lot more than being called "better than average".

As stated in another reply, that Sonics Finals trip was much more about the players than about Karl.
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Doc Rivers was brilliant in the 2008 Finals. That was the only time I can recall that PJax was completely outcoached.
I'd say he was outcoached by Carlisle vs the Mav's when they won it.
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George Karl is a good coach
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Karl played a role in the Sonics trip to the finals, but that team was very very good. An all time pg on both ends, and a pf that at his peak was a truly elite player, plus good role players. IMO it wasn't a surprise at all they got there, I would've give him more credit if he could've pulled it off vs Phil.

He also played a big role in coaching them to the 1 seed in 94 and losing to the 8th seed. Highly overrated coach.
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Doc Rivers was brilliant in the 2008 Finals. That was the only time I can recall that PJax was completely outcoached.

What is Karl's signature coaching moment? I can't think of any.

PJax was outcoached by Larry Brown and Rick Carlisle too. That was not the only time that fool got exposed.
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