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Old 01-03-2013, 02:38 PM   #16
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Default Re: Which QB's Legacy would benefit the most from winning a ring

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Yeah i feel ya. So say Brady makes the superbowl and loses another one. Do you hold that against his legacy?
It shouldn't be viewed as HIM losing it...his legacy should be completely based around how he preformed in the Super Bowl, not weather or not the 53 MAN TEAM won or lost.

IMO Montana is the GOAT because his personal stats during the post season are near flawless, which in return helped the team (filled with other star players) win games...Brady needs to match that level, if he plays this entire post season with a huge passer rating then that is all he can do.

that is just me though...the rest of the NFL world will just see rings regardless of how he plays
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Old 01-03-2013, 02:41 PM   #17
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It shouldn't be viewed as HIM losing it...his legacy should be completely based around how he preformed in the Super Bowl, not weather or not the 53 MAN TEAM won or lost.

IMO Montana is the GOAT because his personal stats during the post season are near flawless, which in return helped the team (filled with other star players) win games...Brady needs to match that level, if he plays this entire post season with a huge passer rating then that is all he can do.

that is just me though...the rest of the NFL world will just see rings regardless of how he plays

Yeah, passer rating! The end all be all stat!

Look, you can play a great game and have a lowish QB rating. I've also seen Brady have a decent QB rating (Jets 2010 playoffs) and he played horrible.
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Yeah, passer rating! The end all be all stat!

Look, you can play a great game and have a lowish QB rating. I've also seen Brady have a decent QB rating (Jets 2010 playoffs) and he played horrible.
it is very hard to play good with a low rating...generally that means INTs and incompletions...etc

it is also very hard to have a crappy game with a high rating...generally that means no INTs and lots of completions

it happens though I know....not every INT is the QB's fault


it is by no means perfect, but IMO it is the best stat we have right now for passing

I would like to take QBR seriously but ESPN has made that impossible by hiding the formula....It is hard to use it if you don't know how it works
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Aaron Rodgers: Enters the "Greatest QB ever?" debate at a relatively young age.
Christian Ponder: Establishes himself as the Vikings' QB long-term. Currently the jury is still out.
Tom Brady: Has a weak GOAT QB argument. Another SB ring gives him a strong argument.
Peyton Manning: Same as Brady
Russell Wilson: Would...make a ton of money off the field. Not enough to make him considered "elite" but he would cement himself as the Seahawk QB even with a few years of struggling afterward.
RG3: Would become the top marketing star in the NFL. He could be seen as elite but it's hard to give a guy that status after one year.
Matt Shaub: Possibly the least-known good QB, a SB makes him a superstar.
Joe Flacco: He currently needs some vindication and this would give him that. Still not elite but he'd get to be the Ravens' QB his whole career.
Colin Kaepernick: No one would mention Alex Smith in SF again.
Andy Dalton: Same as Wilson
Andrew Luck: Same as Griffin
Matt Ryan: Career enters an HOF trajectory.

This exactly.


But as far as the veterans, obviously it's Peyton Manning. He only has one ring right now. If he can add another one, and do it in the way he did so, it would catapult him into GOAT even moreso than he already is.
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Default Re: Which QB's Legacy would benefit the most from winning a ring

Of the ones you listed? It's too early for many of them to really say.

Rodgers: There would be future GOAT talk from people
Ponder: Peterson would get the credit, and some GOAT RB talk would start to pop up
Brady: A number of people would call him the GOAT QB
Manning: Same as Brady
Wilson: Bringing Seattle their first SB win would be big, but I think the credit would get spread around with Lynch and the defense, too
RG3: No comment
Schaub: People might starting talking about him?
Flacco: People would start to take him seriously? I wouldn't be surprised if people gave the credit to the defense whether fair or not
Kaepernick: People would call Harbaugh a genius and Kaep would be talked about if he's the next Niner QB legend
Dalton: Well, they lost
Luck: Would get comparisons to QB legends
Ryan: Really big benefit. He's on the road to getting one of those playoff failure reps, so getting Atlanta their first SB win would be huge
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