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Old 03-22-2013, 01:12 AM   #211
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Exactly why most of what you say should be taken with a huge grain of salt, and points to the very problem with this case because people like you are running their mouths on what they thought they knew about these people. You need to forget what you think you knew and start looking at the evidence, because the DA certainly will be.

There are multiple texts from multiple kids that suggest the coach knew what went down and didn't report it. Why would his own players even make something up like that? He'll rightfully go down for it if they're even half true.
It is a misnomer that being in-the-know but partial somehow invalidates what someone has to say, while a person who just stumbled onto this story but may be impartial should be taken more seriously.

There aren't "multiple texts from multiple kids" showing the coach knew what happened and didn't report it. There are a couple texts from the same kid, who was just found by the court to be a liar and a rapist. The text before the one where Mays says he has Reno so he isn't worried, he was texting the girl's father telling him that he was actually trying to keep his daughter safe that night.

And, he was arguing with another Big Red student the text before that (Shawn McGee), saying he didn't rape anybody and he never touched the girl.

You are attempting to make the argument that all of this kid's other texts regarding this case were lies, but those about the coach have to be true. Why? Because people want it to be true. They want everything they've read about this case to be validated, even though the original story has been almost universally shown to have been completely made-up.

I will go through the initial points one-by-one, if you'd like. Now, people are clinging onto this last little vestige while trying to reinforce their preconceived notions about this city and the people "pulling the strings." The prosecutor has been vindicated. The county sheriff has been vindicated. The city police have been vindicated. Jim Parks, the admin for the rollredroll.com site has been vindicated. Tons of kids who were said to have been involved in some made-up gang rape have been vindicated.

Now, all that's left is the coach and there are a lot of people holding on tight.

I've known right from the start all of this is nonsense and this is just the latest example, which will result in absolutely nothing (and rightfully so). But, the rumors and innuendo will never be able to be taken away. Someone said it, so it must be true.


This kid denied to every person he talked with in the days following the parties that he raped anyone. Yet, we are to believe he went to the coach in the three days which transpired after the rape and before the girl's parents went to the police and the investigation begin... He used that lag time to explain to him exactly what happened that night and that he raped a girl... And he needed help covering it up. It isn't even remotely logical.

Fact is, because I know people close to this thing, the kids were called into the school office and were talked to by both the principal and the coach. They denied even being at the parties, let alone being drunk... Let alone committing a rape... Let alone asking for it to be covered up.

Reno has told a lot better players than Trent Mays to get out of his lockerroom and never come back for wearing earrings and cornrows, let alone something like this.

Think of me what you will, but I told people when this thing broke that a lot of garbage was being spewed and that was proven in court. I'm saying it again... watch what happens.

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Reno has told a lot better players than Trent Mays to get out of his lockerroom and never come back for wearing earrings and cornrows, let alone something like this.

If the coach went as far as kicking players off his team just to keep a certain image than he is more likely to cover up something as rape. That would destroy a program and his career.

Do you really think Reno is rational because he's kicking kids off a team with cornrows and earrings? Really?
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These morons are a bunch of immature, uncivilized, ugly looking d1ckheads. I wish Karma will bite them inside the prison cell.
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Time to lock up this sick coach. He is worse than Paterno. I hope they lock him up and throw away the keys. There is evidence and now the facts have came out with these kids convicted of rape, there will be evidence of Reno's guilt too.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...make-away.html
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The guy with the Big Red Football site is kind of shady. I remember researching last year and the convicted rapist were on the site. He slowly took it off.

Interesting, because this will tell whether the kids continued to play or not after being accused.
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Time to lock up this sick coach. He is worse than Paterno. I hope they lock him up and throw away the keys. There is evidence and now the facts have came out with these kids convicted of rape, there will be evidence of Reno's guilt too.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...make-away.html


I'll contact anonymous Philippines. We are going to make him famous.
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ISH has great detectives/researchers and I am no different. Here's something I didn't know about the town that I found on wiki.

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Steubenville has had a reputation for political corruption. The U.S. Department of Justice alleged that the city and police force had subjected numerous individuals to "excessive force, false arrests, charges, and reports" and had engaged in practices regarding "improper stops, searches, and seizures." The report from the Department also stated that excessive force was levied against individuals who witnessed incidents of police misconduct, and against those who were known critics of the city and its police force. Those individuals were also falsely detained if the city and the police agreed that they were "likely to complain of abuse." It also stated that the officers involved also falsified reports and tampered with official police recorders so that "misconduct would not be recorded."

Over a period of 20 years the city lost, or settled out of court, 48 civil rights lawsuits involving its police force. The city paid out more than $800,000, $400,000 of which was between 1990 and 1996. As a result, the city's police force became the second city in the United States to sign a consent decree with the federal government due to an excessive number of civil rights lawsuits. The decree was signed on September 4, 1997 under the "pattern or practice" provision. Under this agreement, the city agreed to improve the training of its police officers, implement new guidelines and procedures, establish an internal affairs unit, and establish an "early warning system.
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It is a misnomer that being in-the-know but partial somehow invalidates what someone has to say, while a person who just stumbled onto this story but may be impartial should be taken more seriously.

There aren't "multiple texts from multiple kids" showing the coach knew what happened and didn't report it. There are a couple texts from the same kid, who was just found by the court to be a liar and a rapist. The text before the one where Mays says he has Reno so he isn't worried, he was texting the girl's father telling him that he was actually trying to keep his daughter safe that night.

And, he was arguing with another Big Red student the text before that (Shawn McGee), saying he didn't rape anybody and he never touched the girl.

You are attempting to make the argument that all of this kid's other texts regarding this case were lies, but those about the coach have to be true. Why? Because people want it to be true. They want everything they've read about this case to be validated, even though the original story has been almost universally shown to have been completely made-up.

I will go through the initial points one-by-one, if you'd like. Now, people are clinging onto this last little vestige while trying to reinforce their preconceived notions about this city and the people "pulling the strings." The prosecutor has been vindicated. The county sheriff has been vindicated. The city police have been vindicated. Jim Parks, the admin for the rollredroll.com site has been vindicated. Tons of kids who were said to have been involved in some made-up gang rape have been vindicated.

Now, all that's left is the coach and there are a lot of people holding on tight.

I've known right from the start all of this is nonsense and this is just the latest example, which will result in absolutely nothing (and rightfully so). But, the rumors and innuendo will never be able to be taken away. Someone said it, so it must be true.


This kid denied to every person he talked with in the days following the parties that he raped anyone. Yet, we are to believe he went to the coach in the three days which transpired after the rape and before the girl's parents went to the police and the investigation begin... He used that lag time to explain to him exactly what happened that night and that he raped a girl... And he needed help covering it up. It isn't even remotely logical.

Fact is, because I know people close to this thing, the kids were called into the school office and were talked to by both the principal and the coach. They denied even being at the parties, let alone being drunk... Let alone committing a rape... Let alone asking for it to be covered up.

Reno has told a lot better players than Trent Mays to get out of his lockerroom and never come back for wearing earrings and cornrows, let alone something like this.

Think of me what you will, but I told people when this thing broke that a lot of garbage was being spewed and that was proven in court. I'm saying it again... watch what happens.

As much of an opinion you have on the case and your affiliation with the town, I don't think you should comment on this situation.

You could be like all of the people there who were raised or ending up assimilating the Steubenville culture. You have adopted their culture.

We have chatted on this thread dating back to when it was made and you have yet to show any remorse or care for the victim. This is after the kids were convicted of rape.

I have yet to see any sorrow from you or sadness of what has happened. You have went on to defend the coach and the town but have yet to feel pain and sympathy for the victim and her family.

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The town needs a real life Dirty Harry.
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The town needs a real life Dirty Harry.

Either that or let's pray their economy gets so bad to the point that the population starts leaving.
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As much of an opinion you have on the case and your affiliation with the town, I don't think you should comment on this situation.
I'd rather listen to the voice of reason than people jumping to conclusions based on mere rumors. Nothing that he stated so far has been shown to be false. Quite the opposite.
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We have chatted on this thread dating back to when it was made and you have yet to show any remorse or care for the victim. This is after the kids were convicted of rape.

I have yet to see any sorrow from you or sadness of what has happened. You have went on to defend the coach and the town but have yet to feel pain and sympathy for the victim and her family.
I've seen him do it multiple times. Can you read basic English?

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Nail that coach and the parents who let this shit go down to the wall. **** them!

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Seriously this is getting out of control...I need to talk to you please text me back.'

But while Mays adopted a desperate and hectoring tone when texting his victim he is far less concerned in a text to a friend.

In response to the question: 'What did Reno say to you...?'

He said: 'Nothing really. We have to stay in for a week. Next time any of us do anything we are suspended from games for a month.

'But I feel like he took care of it for us.

'Yeh he was joking about it so I'm not worried.'

The next day Mays texted another friend: 'Na IDGAF (I don't give a f***) I got Reno he took care of it ain't s*** gonna happen even if xxx did take it to court.'


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Saccoccia refused to even bench his stars at first, telling the principal and school superintendent that the players did not think they had done anything wrong and therefore he had no reason to suspend them from the team.

What a piece of shit.
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What a piece of shit.
You realize neither Mays nor Richmond played a single game, right? And, the other kids who ended up being witnesses for the prosecution denied being at the parties.

Once they went public and told their real stories, they were suspended from school and kicked off of the team.

So much misinformation.
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As much of an opinion you have on the case and your affiliation with the town, I don't think you should comment on this situation.

You could be like all of the people there who were raised or ending up assimilating the Steubenville culture. You have adopted their culture.

We have chatted on this thread dating back to when it was made and you have yet to show any remorse or care for the victim. This is after the kids were convicted of rape.

I have yet to see any sorrow from you or sadness of what has happened. You have went on to defend the coach and the town but have yet to feel pain and sympathy for the victim and her family.

I don't think you're worth discussing this with, to be totally honest. I only respond to those on here whom I have a modicum of respect for. You were posting such stupid stuff, I honestly thought you were trolling.
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There are a couple texts from the same kid, who was just found by the court to be a liar and a rapist.
If there were proven texts from that kid to the coach about the incident then what does the kid being a liar have to do with anything? Sexual assault happened. And the coach had information about it. The kid mightve lied about stuff and destroyed his reputation personally, but the coach had info that he didnt report. How can this be spinned?
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