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Old 01-09-2013, 08:46 PM   #46
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LT is not a mythical legend, i saw every game he ever played. You didn't, you're too young. I know 100% you didn't because you started pulling pass rushing stats like LT lined up in a three point stance on the line and did nothing but rush, like he was good at nothing else. There will never ever be a time when Ware is compared favorably to LT, it's utterly asinine, it's like trolling level stupid to say.

Can you be just a tiny bit fair at times? I know this is before your time too, because super homer you are and i never hear Aikman/Smith/Irvin from you and LT was good prior to those guys. If you saw those guys we'd have Aikman all time QB threads.
He already said he saw LT play live at Texas Stadium
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Old 01-09-2013, 09:52 PM   #47
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I guess it's just a myth that LT is the last defensive player to win MVP.
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I guess it's just a myth that LT is the last defensive player to win MVP.
No defensive player will win The MVP again. The media thinks the award means best QB on the best team now. Even though AD, has a groundswell of support behind him, I still expect Peyton Manning to win the award.
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John Randle, lol.



Kevin Greene!!!! AND HIS 3 ALL PROS

Yeah, Randle and Greene were forces in the way that Lewis never was. I also mistakenly left Sapp off the list of defenders that were superior to Ray. The brand of Ray Lewis has exceeded the play of Ray Lewis for damn near a decade.
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Old 01-09-2013, 10:25 PM   #50
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Good. That means LT will be the last person to ever win it for defense.
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Good. That means LT will be the last person to ever win it for defense.

It's a damn shame because Watt truly deserves it this season. He probably had the best season by a defensive player ever.
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Ware doesn't belong...yet

his name was brought up to point out that LT gets a little too much hype...like it or not, Ware gets more pressure on the QB than LT did at a bigger size even...and he will retire with SIGNIFICANTLY more sacks than LT.



Deion on the other hand is top-5 all time right now...

Top 5 at what, worst tacklers?
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Old 01-09-2013, 11:30 PM   #53
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that is happening here for sure...LT is like a mythical legend in the heads of some people but in reality Ware is bigger, faster, puts on just as much pressure if not more...probably better at run D, etc...he is certainly comparable to LT, infact Parcells compared the two when Ware was drafted

when Ware retires people will start to come around on him being in talks like this...still too early for many now

Yeah and Romo will be considered the greatest QB ever, also
Dez Bryant GOAT WR
Witten GOAT TE
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prime is getting roasted
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:21 AM   #55
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Top 5 at what, worst tacklers?
Do you actually think Ware is a poor tackler?

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Do you actually think Ware is a poor tackler?

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He meant Deion is one of the worst tacklers ever. Which he was.
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He meant Deion is one of the worst tacklers ever. Which he was.
oh yeah...that rep he has is overblown, but he was a poor tackler I guess

if you look at his tackle numbers they are on par with many of the good CBs that play today though



that entire rep came from ONE incident where he seemingly avoided a tackle and then when asked about it after the game said "if it don't make dollars it don't make sense"

he has also said "you show me a corner that tackles a lot and I will show you a corner that isn't doing his job"

most of that rep was earned from Deion's mouth (which he should have kept shut)...there aren't many highlights of him actually tackling poorly out there.
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Deion was a poor tackler. Nothing overblown about it. Homer
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Sean Taylor was coming into his own. Sad to not be able to see what could've been.
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Sean Taylor was coming into his own. Sad to not be able to see what could've been.

He had no chance to be GOAT at his position. Reed Dawkins, Troy P. Sean would have still been looking up to them if he didnt die senselessly by clowns
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