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Old 01-05-2013, 08:45 AM   #61
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Family Matters was black full house, Martin was just another cookie cutter sitcom, Who's the Boss was a mediocre 80's sitcom, can't compare this stuff to the true greats.

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Old 01-05-2013, 08:50 AM   #62
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Martin must be last because he dressed up as two woman on his show, Shenana and mama Payne.
No, because it was not funny, incredibly overacted, incredibly bad acting, writing, scripting and one of those shows where you could tell what the rest of the episode would be like after 2 seconds. That's why. You tell us why Martin deserves to be ranked with those other shows, please? Why would anybody rank it over The Larry Sanders Show? Heck, there's probably enough reasons to list Step by Step higher than that. Full House deserves to be listed over Martin as well. Didn't like it myself though. The Nanny has a good case here. Frasier actually IS 10x the show that Martin was. Screenplay, acting, plot, overall much better.
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Old 01-05-2013, 08:52 AM   #63
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No, because it was not funny, incredibly overacted, incredibly bad acting, writing, scripting and one of those shows where you could tell what the rest of the episode would be like after 2 seconds. That's why. You tell us why Martin deserves to be ranked with those other shows, please? Why would anybody rank it over The Larry Sanders Show? Heck, there's probably enough reasons to list Step by Step higher than that. Full House deserves to be listed over Martin as well. Didn't like it myself though. The Nanny has a good case here. Frasier actually IS 10x the show that Martin was. Screenplay, acting, plot, overall much better.

People need to stop listing horrible 80's shows like who's the Boss and Step by step and 90's cookie cutter shit like martin. There was a 100 shows like Martin, this one just happened to have Martin Lawrence.
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Old 01-05-2013, 08:57 AM   #64
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People need to stop listing horrible 80's shows like who's the Boss and Step by step and 90's cookie cutter shit like martin. There was a 100 shows like Martin, this one just happened to have Martin Lawrence.

I guess people just turned on the TV to see mediocre actors do exactly what they expected them to do and say what they expected them to say for about 30 minutes, makes it easier to recite among friends over and over to make it a catchphrase. Upon which shows like Martin thrived.
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:01 AM   #65
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I guess people just turned on the TV to see mediocre actors do exactly what they expected them to do and say what they expected them to say for about 30 minutes, makes it easier to recite among friends over and over to make it a catchphrase. Upon which shows like Martin thrived.

Seriously. Why anyone would ever want to watch some of these shows is beyond me. The actually transcendent shows like AD, Seinfeld, Roseanne, Cheers, Frasier, and Scrubs brought something unique to the table. Seinfeld and AD flipped television on its head, they're both hugely influential. AD's influence is easily seen in television today. Both Cheers and Frasier were brilliantly well written comedies which strayed from formulaic sitcoms. Scrubs was a great show which balanced comedic and heartfelt moments brilliantly.
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:42 AM   #66
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I'm happy to see Roseanne gets its due in this thread even though I don't think it's the greatest sitcom. I always feel it gets overlooked but that maybe cause I'm from a urban environment. Roseanne tackled serious issues and problems often glossed over by other tv programs with bittersweet wit. Still there aren't many shows that feature blue collar white "trash" families without devolving completely to caricature the way Roseanne was able to do.
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:57 AM   #67
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Roseanne = MJ of sitcoms ?

I certainty think so.


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Old 01-05-2013, 10:11 AM   #68
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Still there aren't many shows that feature blue collar white "trash" families without devolving completely to caricature the way Roseanne was able to do.
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Old 01-05-2013, 10:44 AM   #69
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Old 01-05-2013, 11:32 AM   #70
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My Step By Step comment was a joke. Someone above showed a .gif of the one, the only, Al Bundy.



It doesn't get much better than Married with Children. A true classic. Ain't nobody fuckin' with Al's four touchdowns in one game. Can't no bitch hold a candle to Peggy's orange (not red) head and busty jugs. Kelly, well that's pretty self-explanatory and last but not least, Grand Master B. Damn, that's one hell of a family.
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Old 01-05-2013, 11:34 AM   #71
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Family Matters was black full house, Martin was just another cookie cutter sitcom, Who's the Boss was a mediocre 80's sitcom, can't compare this stuff to the true greats.

Seinfeld
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Cheers Roseanne Frasier
Scrubs

Really! OMG, never thought of it like that! Captain Obvious here to save the day!



... and please dude, if you use the term "cookie-cutter" one more time I'm going to flip out go bat+ape shit.

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Old 01-05-2013, 12:14 PM   #72
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This is the correct answer.

Roseanne is far from being the greatest sitcom of all time. I can think of about 20 others better than Roseanne imo.

Fawlty Towers however is way ahead of Roseanne.

The Germans episode maybe the best episode a sitcom has ever had.

I dare you find an episode of Roseanne that is half as funny as the Germans episode.

Here's a segment of the Germans episode: http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=f9BetL3rlZY

“Entschuldigen sie, bitte, können sie Deutsch sprechen?”
“I’m sorry, could you say that again?”
“You speak German?”
“Oh German, I’m sorry, I thought there was something wrong with you!”

“Will you stop talking about the war?”
“Me? You started it!”
“We did not start it!”
“Yes you did, you invaded Poland.”
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Old 01-05-2013, 01:28 PM   #73
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I really like Roseanne (until it got s**tty toward the end at least, although the very last episode was powerful). great, extremely relatable characters. roseanne, dan, darlene, and jackie are all amazing. great writing. did a good job at keeping it real and not getting corny too much.

seinfeld isn't my cup of tea, but I get that it's good.

arrested development I think brought in an age of greater wit and even sharper writing. I think 30 Rock is comparable to Arrested Development. Arrested Development had better characters and better running jokes, but I think the dialogue and one-liners on 30 Rock are better than Arrested Development's.
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Old 01-05-2013, 01:31 PM   #74
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If you aren't black, Martin probably wasn't for you. Just like if you aren't white, Roseanne was an awful ****in show. Same with Mash, that shit was awful too.

Seinfeld is the king, and Everybody Hates Chris was really underrated. Fresh Prince was great as well.
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If you aren't black, Martin probably wasn't for you. Just like if you aren't white, Roseanne was an awful ****in show. Same with Mash, that shit was awful too.

Seinfeld is the king, and Everybody Hates Chris was really underrated. Fresh Prince was great as well.

agree that everybody hates chris is really good. I think fresh prince was kind of corny and the writing wasn't at the level of these other shows most of the time.
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