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Old 01-07-2013, 12:03 PM   #166
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All valid points. People who've worked in retail know the hell it can be to work in retail, yet no one complaining about those people not getting tips. And please no one bring in the under minimum wage excuse, not for places like California.

I'm confident the time will come when tipping is less frequent. The white population is on the decline, and with their decline also goes their customs. This place is about to become the United Asians of Mexico

It's just the way it is, waiters get tipped, retail people don't. Who cares.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:09 PM   #167
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The American restaurant model: Genius

>Pay your employees like shit
>Employees expect customers to make up for said shitty pay by tipping
>When customers don't tip, they are chastised even though it's the employer's fault for paying them like shit in the first place
>???
>Profit

Tipping in this country is starting to become extortion.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:14 PM   #168
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I love when the jealous bitter angle is used.

"This job doesn't get tips, so why should this one?"

WHAHWHAHWHAHWHAHWHAHWHAH!!!!!!!! Lol.

You fools wouldn't want to tip those people either, so don't front like you care about them.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:20 PM   #169
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It's just the way it is, waiters get tipped, retail people don't. Who cares.

Apparently you and a lot of people.

Like i said, every tipping topic leads to the pro-tipping people not having anything logical to say and resort silly statements about how waiters deserve tips above other service workers or threats of what happens if you don't tip. Its this sentiment that will ultimately hurt service workers in the long run that are used to getting tips.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:21 PM   #170
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If tipping was eliminated then prices will go up. FACT! The market would eventually even itself out to where you would be spending about the same amount of money as you were when tipping. Now your forced to pay regardless of the kind of service you get, with no option to not tip. It's pretty freaking simple.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:28 PM   #171
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Apparently you and a lot of people.

Like i said, every tipping topic leads to the pro-tipping people not having anything logical to say and resort silly statements about how waiters deserve tips above other service workers or threats of what happens if you don't tip. Its this sentiment that will ultimately hurt service workers in the long run that are used to getting tips.

Pointing out that it is part of our society that you should tip waiters is illogical?

Also it's silly to label them "pro tipping" people, since that's just normal reasonable people.
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Old 01-07-2013, 12:29 PM   #172
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Retailers do get screwed. At least at some of those places they make up for it in bonuses, but at the end of the day they are just another group who corporate America screws over daily. I feel for them, but that doesn't mean we should strip servers of what little cushiness they have with their job.
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Old 01-07-2013, 01:22 PM   #173
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If tipping was eliminated then prices will go up. FACT! The market would eventually even itself out to where you would be spending about the same amount of money as you were when tipping. Now your forced to pay regardless of the kind of service you get, with no option to not tip. It's pretty freaking simple.

Explain your "Fact" with the bartending industry where they are already having 1000% markup on a drink.
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Old 01-07-2013, 01:27 PM   #174
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Thats horshit. Many of these waiters get paid under the table and at any decent place they are making over triple the minimum wage. I made more as a waiter then i do in my current job at an hourly rate.

Same here, I made pretty good money delivering pizzas and serving. I was paid over minimum wage doing both and was able to get by on all tip money and put all my checks into savings. The jobs are not that bad, shifts are short and you can easily clear two to three times your wage. I could average $25-30 an hour on a typical night when I worked for pizza joints. That's a lot to drive around in your car and listen to music for 90% of your shift.
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Old 01-07-2013, 01:40 PM   #175
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Default Re: Tipping at restaurants?

I have no problem tipping, and ever since I've started working full-time after college I've tried to tip 20% unless the service was bad. I like the idea of tipping for service, but I've never worked as a waiter so I'm not sure how tips are usually split between the chefs / waiters / person at the front. But I do know that I take into consideration all of these things when I think about how much to tip.

The 20% tip thing does get a little skewed when you start going to higher end restaurants and an entree comes out to be $50 compared to like $12 or something at applebees. I'm sure it's harder to be a waiter or cook at a steak house, but is it 3 times as hard?
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:03 PM   #176
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Explain your "Fact" with the bartending industry where they are already having 1000% markup on a drink.


They would mark it up even more to pay the person serving it a livable wage.
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:05 PM   #177
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They would mark it up even more to pay the person serving it a livable wage.

You do know bartenders usually show off claiming they pull in over $1000 on a good night.

Thats more than what a normal person makes in a week.
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:07 PM   #178
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You do know bartenders usually show off claiming they pull in over $1000 on a good night.

Thats more than what a normal person makes in a week.


So go become a bartender. No one is stopping you. A basketball player makes millions for playing a children's game. Life ain't fair.
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So go become a bartender. No one is stopping you. A basketball player makes millions for playing a children's game. Life ain't fair.

You're right...so i'm not going to tip them. Life isn't fair...tough.
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:17 PM   #180
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btw tips are often split between staff so the cook might be getting some of your tip too
rarely. Generally the tips are split to busboys, bartenders, and other front of house staff. It is not very common for the cook or dishwasher to get a cut.
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