Every time this thread happens it depresses me how cheap and miserable people are. Be generous you pricks.
What you don't understand is that they get paid in FULL...minimum wage to serve your. its their job to serve you. They have no other duties BUT to serve you.
So why should they be entitled to a tip? When they are simply doing their job.
If they don't like the wage of being a waitress, they can get another one.
Like some restaurants that charge over 30 dollars a person, the amount of tips become outrageous very easily when there are a party of 5 or more. At this point, charge over 30 a person, the restaurant can easily give their waitresses a higher wage.
What you don't understand is that they get paid in FULL...minimum wage to serve your. its their job to serve you. They have no other duties BUT to serve you.
So why should they be entitled to a tip? When they are simply doing their job.
If they don't like the wage of being a waitress, they can get another one.
Like some restaurants that charge over 30 dollars a person, the amount of tips become outrageous very easily when there are a party of 5 or more. At this point, charge over 30 a person, the restaurant can easily give their waitresses a higher wage.
What you don't understand is that they get paid in FULL...minimum wage to serve your. its their job to serve you. They have no other duties BUT to serve you.
So why should they be entitled to a tip? When they are simply doing their job.
If they don't like the wage of being a waitress, they can get another one.
Like some restaurants that charge over 30 dollars a person, the amount of tips become outrageous very easily when there are a party of 5 or more. At this point, charge over 30 a person, the restaurant can easily give their waitresses a higher wage.
You are trying to make sense out of culture, not gonna happen. People don't tip because they think, "Oh these poor waiters make sh!t". People tip because...well it's the customs to. It's the sign that you appreciate the service, in the USA.
Just like...why do Japanese bow instead of shaking hands? Why do in many countries get offended if elders are called by first name? It's just their culture. Their sign of respect.
It's one thing to not tip, that is your right and the beauty of the system, but these people who bitch about it and make threads ranting, come across like most people do who are complainers, straight up annoying. If you don't have the funds or want to spend the money it's okay, just don't whine about it. Please don't tip and leave it at that. It's when people try to justify it, is when it becomes pretty petty and whinny.
If tipping ended today, wages would have to increase, therefore leading to higher costs, so essentially it all would balance itself out and you would still be paying the same amount. Pretty freaking simple.
Last edited by Norcaliblunt : 01-06-2013 at 02:19 PM.
I tip 20% every time out because the service folks make below minimum wage in Massachusetts. It's not breaking my bank, especially if the service is top-notch. If the service is bad, I still tip 20%...and then make a note to never visit that establishment again. Lord knows there's plenty of options out there should I feel like dining out.
Now...all that being said, tips aren't a divine right. They're a cultural courtesy to the service industry professionals who willingly place themselves at our disposal. If someone doesn't want to give one, that's no reason to fly off on a rant. You want guaranteed money, there are plenty of industries you can work in to get that.
Why does America have this consensus that people should tip 15%?
I mean these waitress/waiters are making at least minimum wage PLUS tips. This is almost $20-40 per hour. How is that even fair? Thats a very very good wage for someone without a college education and doing some trifling work.
Other jobs like CPAs or attorneys do not get tipped. In fact, with these occupations, people try to take advantage of them and demand free consultations before even signing a retainer with them
No other occupation requires tips, but why restaurants? If those waiters/waitress feel they are underpaid, they can always get another job.
People who work much harder jobs don't even make $20 per hour.
I am sure this has been pointed out, but minimum wage doesnt apply to servers. There is a difference minimum wage for them, which I think varies by state. Basically, they have to earn minimum wage INCLUDING their tips.
What you don't understand is that they get paid in FULL...minimum wage to serve your. its their job to serve you. They have no other duties BUT to serve you.
So why should they be entitled to a tip? When they are simply doing their job.
If they don't like the wage of being a waitress, they can get another one.
Like some restaurants that charge over 30 dollars a person, the amount of tips become outrageous very easily when there are a party of 5 or more. At this point, charge over 30 a person, the restaurant can easily give their waitresses a higher wage.
again, no they dont. Server minimum wage is something like 2.50 per hour in the states I am familiar with.
Now, the real tip scam is bartenders. Supposed to be a buck a drink? What a rip off.