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Old 01-07-2013, 02:44 PM   #61
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- real talk....do you even watch most Laker games?

- everything you said is 100% false.

Of course you'd say that.
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:46 PM   #62
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If i was Howard, i would have a beef with Bryant as well. I have watched Bryant closely for his entire career and for some inexplicable reason he is still playing hero ball even as his career winds down. If the opposing team is up by a few scores with a few minutes remaining, what will Bryant do? Will he A) Run the offense and search for the highest percentage shot to get his team within striking distance, or will he B) launch a contested 3 pointer even though that's clearly not the shot his team needs at the moment just so that he can be given all of the credit if they win. Anybody who has watched Bryant play throughout his career knows that he will take the contested 3 pointer 10 out of 10 times. He will never let go of hero ball and this is what i dislike about him the most. He wants all the credit for their victories.
hero ball got him 5 rings. he should continue doing what he is doing.
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:50 PM   #63
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Default Re: Kobe and Howard apparently got into a "heated exchange"

I doubt this ever happened because if Kobe and Dwight got into it....we would have seen Dwight with a black eye or a busted nose.
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:52 PM   #64
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Default Re: Kobe and Howard apparently got into a "heated exchange"

If I was the Lakers I'd keep Howard and ship off Kobe.

Will not be popular of course but best course of action for the franchise future.

Hell we shipped out Shaq...Now ship out Kobe.
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:53 PM   #65
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At times I don't blame him for going into hero ball if they're down. At times he kinda has too, that's what every star player must do in these situations aka 'Take over' and try to win the game.

My issue is how he goes about it in this instance.

My issue with Kobe is when they are winning, yet he goes for his regardless of how he and others are playing. If they're winning and other players have played well and he hasn't, he continues to jack up shots to get his stats. Something not exclusive to him, but he's alone in how often he does it.
You'd be right if you said the exact opposite on every point you brought up.
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:55 PM   #66
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Of course you'd say that.


You sound like a blind hater....

Kobe is a very smart and cerebral player.....

Whne the lakers are firing on all cylinders he doesn't just shoot to score....

You sound silly when you make those statements.
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:56 PM   #67
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hero ball got him 5 rings. he should continue doing what he is doing.

Hero ball is never a positive thing. It's not positive if MJ does it, if LeBron does it, or if Bryant does it. Coaches hate hero ball for a reason. They want their players to trust the system, trust their teammates, and take intelligent shots. Hero ball encompasses none of the above. Laker fans wonder why Bryant gets all the blame when they lose? It's simple. When you have a guy like Bryant who plays hero ball constantly and seeks all the glory for his teams successes, he should also take all the blame for their failures. If he is such an alpha like people are claiming him to be, he should have no problem accepting the blame for his teams current record.
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:57 PM   #68
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I love Net fans trying to pawn off Lopez for Dwight. He's a huge injury risk, there is no way that would happen. Lopez stepped wrong and the Nets sat him down for three weeks. People don't want to talk about it because it's not a happy topic but is anyone here telling me there is not another foot injury in his future? And the Lakers take that huge contract for four years?
Well your a Knicks fan.. So of course you don't want to see Dwight some to BK.your opinion on this matter is pretty much void because you're gonna spin it to fit your biases.
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hero ball got him 5 rings. he should continue doing what he is doing.
Good advice, Robert Horry got 7 rings doing what he did.
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You sound like a blind hater....

Kobe is a very smart and cerebral player.....

Whne the lakers are firing on all cylinders he doesn't just shoot to score....

You sound silly when you make those statements.
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Old 01-07-2013, 02:59 PM   #71
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Good thing you're not the Lakers because that's just a dumb idea.
Kobe>>>Howard and it's very apparent. Lakers future shouldn't
be based on Howard. What happens when the franchise has
to depend on him to score? You know...win the game? lol
Howard needs to keep his mouth shut and improve his D.
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Old 01-07-2013, 03:01 PM   #72
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he averaged 35PPG in 2008 - 2010??
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Old 01-07-2013, 03:05 PM   #73
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You're dumb too lol.
Kobe has never had a problem taking all the blame and he does.
The problem is when people fail to realize that other people
have to show up ready to play every game and don't. Then
look at Kobe as detrimental to the team because he was dedicated
enough to try and win no matter what the excuses are.
It's a team effort and only Kobe and sometimes Metta show
up to play every night consistently. No excuses for Howard and Pau.
Hero ball doesn't even come until the fourth. Why aren't Howard
and Pau dominating out the gate? You know when they receive
constant touches and should be dominating weaker teams.
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Old 01-07-2013, 03:07 PM   #74
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And he played hero ball on the Rockets, Lakers and Spurs lol.
That fool went to shoot as soon as the ball came to him every time lol
I'm glad he did!
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You're dumb too lol.
Kobe has never had a problem taking all the blame and he does.
The problem is when people fail to realize that other people
have to show up ready to play every game and don't. Then
look at Kobe as detrimental to the team because he was dedicated
enough to try and win no matter what the excuses are.
It's a team effort and only Kobe and sometimes Metta show
up to play every night consistently. No excuses for Howard and Pau.
Hero ball doesn't even come until the fourth. Why aren't Howard
and Pau dominating out the gate? You know when they receive
constant touches and should be dominating weaker teams.

It's one thing just giving them touches, but how about actually setting them up for once? How about Bryant penetrating the defense and setting them up for easy baskets? Isn't that what all the great ones do? Don't the great ones create easy opportunities for their teammates? It's one thing to just throw those guys the ball on the post and expect them to do something with it. It's another if you see that they aren't doing anything with it and trying another way to get them easy shots/looks.
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