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Old 01-07-2013, 04:15 PM   #16
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Props to Duncan for this year.. But what about his down years the past couple seasons when the spurs still were getting one seeds? He's got the best coaching, talent development, and overall team of any superstar right now. Tony Parker has been the best player on the Spurs for a while until this year. Manu was better too.

Guess Lamar Odom should get more credit for the Lakers success from 08-10 being their third option as well.

Being able to take a lesser role in the offense when you're past your prime, for the betterment of the team shouldn't take away from a legacy, it should add to it if anything.
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Old 01-07-2013, 04:16 PM   #17
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Who doesn't like winning?
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Old 01-07-2013, 04:18 PM   #18
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This thread is about personal win percentage.. Which is regular season wins.

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Spurs won four titles when Duncan was the best player. What have they won after Duncan reached his down years again?


This. Kobe ******gers need to get over the fact TD was the better player.
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Old 01-07-2013, 04:27 PM   #20
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if it wasnt for those years where kobe had smush parker and kwame brown he would be the highest

Poor baby. He didn't have championship talent around him EVERY year of his career.
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Old 01-07-2013, 04:33 PM   #21
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To me Duncan is the most impressive winner there ever was in this league. His teammates were never all star level cept maybe Robinson for two years? Plus he played in the same era as Kobe and Shaq, both of whom compete for having the best teammates talent wise, than probably any other single star ever in the league. That's a real accomplishment on Duncan's part.

To me the only guys that had a real intimate relationship with winning were Russell, Duncan and Magic. Bird has a case and I'm missing one other person at the moment.

"All star level" doesn't matter. It's what you can do in the spaces you have.

Parker and Manu were/are amazing players. Top players at what I just said... after a certain point, they weren't losing games because of how those guys played often.

If a guy can get you 20 along side a superstar does it really matter if he can't get you 30 by himself?

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Old 01-07-2013, 04:39 PM   #22
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"All star level" doesn't matter. It's what you can do in the spaces you have.

Parker and Manu were/are amazing players. Top players at what I just said... after a certain point, they weren't losing games because of how those guys played often.

If a guy can get you 20 along side a superstar does it really matter if he can't get you 30 by himself?

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The spurs grab smart, professional European basketball players that are used to running efficient offensive sets and being held accountable if the team was losing. These guys are then coordinated by a mastermind coach and it's easy to build chemistry when guys have always played team basketball and are used to that style of play.

Every other team in the nba tries to land the biggest, fastest strongest black guy to carry their team.. And then that guy diminishes everyone else's confidence because the rest if the team feels second to him. It's stupid building based on luck if your star ends up exploding.

The spurs have a proven formula for winning regular season games that goes way way past Duncan as an individual player.. That's why this doesn't mean much.
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Props to Duncan for this year.. But what about his down years the past couple seasons when the spurs still were getting one seeds? He's got the best coaching, talent development, and overall team of any superstar right now. Tony Parker has been the best player on the Spurs for a while until this year. Manu was better too.

Guess Lamar Odom should get more credit for the Lakers success from 08-10 being their third option as well.

Keep sippin on that haterade kid. Even in Duncan's "down years" he still dominated the paint on both ends of the floor no doubt. Statistical dips don't necessarily justify "down years" when your team is still the best in the west and you're consistently the most dominant big man in the game

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Old 01-07-2013, 04:50 PM   #24
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Keep sippin on that haterade kid. Even in Duncan's "down years" he still dominated the paint on both ends of the floor no doubt. Statistical dips don't necessarily justify "down years" when your team is still the best in the west and you're consistently the most dominant big man in the game



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Duncan wasn't even close to the most dominant big man in the league before this year for a good amount of time. You're a retard.
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if it wasnt for those years where kobe had smush parker and kwame brown he would be the highest

You mean the result of Kobe chasing away the guy that handed him 3 rings, that resulted in him having to play with the type of cast that other guys that could've won with Shaq did? Guys like Pierce/Tmac/Iverson/ and Wade who played with the pieces traded for Shaq and won a title with Shaq?

And we should feel sorry for Kobe and use a couple of down years as an excuse why?

Evidently playing with Dwight Howard, Steve Nash, Ron Artest, Antawn Jamison, Pau Gasol isn't good enough either.
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if it wasnt for those years where kobe had smush parker and kwame brown he would be the highest

LOL u ?


Props to Duncan, GOAT PF and GOAT player since Michael Jordan.
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Old 01-07-2013, 05:38 PM   #27
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We all know it's Kobe running the show, whatever Kobe wants it happens. Kobe wanted D'Antoni he got it, Kobe wanted Howard and get rid of Bynum he got it. Like he wanted Shaq and Phil out and he got it.

Off-course Kobef@ggotts keep blaming everyone else, and even putting Kobe ahead of Duncan when Duncan never damaged the Spurs franchise in any way.
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considering he played for a small market and his teammates were not lottery picks, I would really consider duncan as one of the GOATS competing with jordan.
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"All star level" doesn't matter. It's what you can do in the spaces you have.

Parker and Manu were/are amazing players. Top players at what I just said... after a certain point, they weren't losing games because of how those guys played often.

If a guy can get you 20 along side a superstar does it really matter if he can't get you 30 by himself?

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Often and consistently are two different things. Winning ways are based on consistency in good play. You most often get that from very good players - in this case, its the regular season. All stars are usually among the best of players. No Duncan, no wins.

Manu was never a steady and consistent contributor in the regular season. Rarely ever averaged above 30 minutes per game. The vast majority of his career he averaged less than half of game played. Whether he missed 45 games or the usual 10 it never affected win totals during the year. He played 44 games in '09 they still win the division. In '06 he misses 18 games they have the best record in the league. In the playoffs he means a bit more but not in this conversation. In the regular season he was always a part-timer that could not be counted on.

Parker is a good player and a steady player but his strengths can't be counted on. He will rarely ever get 10 assist. He's not going to steal the ball much. He's going to be blown by. He might get you 18 points tonight but he's much more likely to get 15. With Parker you expect a below average point guard output. He's not multidimensional, he doesn't make his teammates better. Prime Duncan was a better set up player. When Gin would go down it was rare for Parker to take up the slack. Parker had one year that stood out in 13. To say he's effectively similar to an all star just isn't correct. He is rarely similar to an allstar and has one strength that can't be counted on - his tear drop.

My bad he's a good penetrator as well but it doesn't merit he should be talked about as a valid number two guy for the winning est ever.

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