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Old 01-07-2013, 07:08 PM   #31
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That really is an incredible record to have. If you're going to have a record, personal winning percentage to go with 4 rings can shut a lot of people up in an argument. It's a team thing still at the end of the day, and joining an elite team with DRob helps...but no one can deny how important Duncan has been since day 1.

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Old 01-07-2013, 07:14 PM   #32
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Just another reason why you can't rank Kobe over Duncan all time without being a homer. Another there are infinite other reasons; it just really goes to show that you can't keep TD out of you're top 10 reasonably. And if he's only like #8, is Kobe even top 10 at all?

Yes im bringing Kobe into this dammit! This thread needs replies!
Kobe has a history of dominating the Spurs, so yes you can rank Kobe over Duncan, and most do. But you had to start something didn't you? Great accomplishment by Duncan
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:14 PM   #33
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Duncan/Popovich are a paragon of excellence. Unlike the great college programs they don't get the biggest names to sign with them every year because of their reputation; unlike the Lakers and Celtics they have no historical tradition nor the favor of the commissioner so that they seem to keep getting great players for nothing; and unlike Showtime or the 80s Celtics they aren't loaded with HOFers top to bottom.

Yes, their excellence is based on an accident/fluke, that of getting the #1 pick when they were already a good team because of an injury; but everything after that was earned, and it was never based on any individual talent.

Every team in every sport at every level has something to learn from studying the Spurs, I think; and every individual player has something to learn from studying their players.
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:17 PM   #34
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Congratulations on a meaningless record that likely less than 500 people in the entire world know about. Kind of the same thing as Pauk's missed triple doubles record that LeBron has...
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Old 01-07-2013, 07:40 PM   #35
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Congratulations on a meaningless record that likely less than 500 people in the entire world know about. Kind of the same thing as Pauk's missed triple doubles record that LeBron has...

How the hell is the highest winning percentage in NBA history 'meaningless'?



Under Duncan's tenure, no team in sports, let alone basketball has a better win percentage during the same span. If you can't respect that, your whole perspective is whack.

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Old 01-07-2013, 07:59 PM   #36
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Hard not to love Tim Duncan and the Spurs.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:27 PM   #37
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First of all, how can you spew stats that are not even correct and act like they're right?

The vast majority of his career, he averaged less than half of a game played? He's played in 84% of the team's total games. Even though he doesn't play high minutes, when he plays, he's highly effective and was the 3rd best SG in the league behind Kobe and Wade during the past 10 years. He's also highly efficient and can create his own shot.

Parker is another efficient guard who shoots 50% and can create his own shot. He's more likely to get 15 points than 18 points? He averages 19 points a game and he's averaged 19PPG over the past 8 years. This year he has 12 games over 10 assists. Last year, he averaged a career high 7.7 APG.

Don't try to be like a Kobe fan who tears into his teammates to make Kobe look good. Duncan has had a solid supporting cast.
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Old 01-07-2013, 08:36 PM   #38
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Duncan definitely had a solid supporting cast. You don't win 50 games every year without a solid team.



But Kobe was the supporting cast for much of his career. That's why when he tried to carry a team, the best he managed was a 7th seed and 1st round exit... which is exactly what would happen if Parker and Ginobili tried to carry the Spurs.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:10 PM   #39
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if it wasnt for those years where kobe had smush parker and kwame brown he would be the highest

Makes up form the years Shaq and Phil carried him.

In fact look at his winning % without Phil lol.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:24 PM   #40
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Kobe's a system player - Without Phil Jackson and the triangle it's impossible to build around him.



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If Kobe won all the games he lost, he would have a 100% winning percentage.

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Old 01-07-2013, 09:27 PM   #41
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Totally forgot this was a team game for a second.
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Old 01-07-2013, 09:31 PM   #42
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Duncan won his second MVP & Finals MVP when Parker was a second year player and Manu was a rookie. The amazingness that is Duncan is that he's won with evolving rosters of role players, veterans, and not many stars. Winning a championship 8 seasons apart while leading the team in scoring in the playoffs is quite the feat, let alone the personal winning percentage. The stat itself is self-explanatory; put Duncan in the game and the likelihood of winning rising significantly. Ultimate two-way player. Groundhog Day.
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Old 01-07-2013, 11:45 PM   #43
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First of all, how can you spew stats that are not even correct and act like they're right?

The vast majority of his career, he averaged less than half of a game played? He's played in 84% of the team's total games. Even though he doesn't play high minutes, when he plays, he's highly effective and was the 3rd best SG in the league behind Kobe and Wade during the past 10 years. He's also highly efficient and can create his own shot.
My bad it wasn't a vast majority. I'm talking 48mins x 82 games. That's 3936 minutes in a full game. His career average is 1860 mins per season a bit less than half a game - pretty close (1968 is half a game mark) but not enough to be a big time contributor. This isn't football. Harden, Ray Allen, Allen Iverson, play all out way too much more than Manu and had way too much more responsibility than Manu. Atlanta had a very good record the last four years and if Joe Johnson played less than half of the available minutes they are a loosing team. Noway could Manu carry a team because his playing is way too erratic and never enough to carry. On a day to day he's not any of those players during the regular season. Seattle, Atlanta, Philly and currently Houston would be bad teams if they had to depend on Gin.

Kevin Martin and Stephon Curry would be close to stars if they played more. But its justified to say they don't deserve it. If the Clippers win it all Jamal Crawford is playing Gin's role right now cept he was leading his team in scoring (hits clutch shots as well). He's not looked at as part of the franchise, tho. 4th or 5th best player on the team? If he was playing starter minutes he would be looked at differently.
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Parker is another efficient guard who shoots 50% and can create his own shot. He's more likely to get 15 points than 18 points? He averages 19 points a game and he's averaged 19PPG over the past 8 years. This year he has 12 games over 10 assists. Last year, he averaged a career high 7.7 APG.

Don't try to be like a Kobe fan who tears into his teammates to make Kobe look good. Duncan has had a solid supporting cast.

Parker only averaged more than 19 ppg once in his career - A very good 22ppg. Only once did he average more than 7 assist per game. He's a solid player, at times a very good player, but I don't think he was ever a top point guard. You have to remember Kobe was number two guy for almost half of Duncan's career. Shaq #2 for like four years. Pierce for like five years. Nash or Amare for six years. They all had very solid strengths much more pronounced than Parker. Parker is a step down from those guys. And he missed a lot of games too. Not a knock on Parker at all but a lot of the time Duncan didn't know who was going show up.

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