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Old 09-01-2013, 03:08 PM   #1516
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Jesus, he could have gone a CG if it didn't take him 60 to get through 2 innings.
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Old 09-01-2013, 10:32 PM   #1517
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zack greinke has quietly been having a really great year. he's just won his sixth straight start and is sitting on a 14-3 record (not that that's important) and a 2.78 ERA. he missed a few starts due to the broken collarbone he suffered earlier in the season but he's been excellent

the dodgers rotation is looking seriously scary right about now. kershaw and greinke lead the way but hyun-jin ryu has been really impressive (13-5, 3.02 ERA) and ricky nolasco is a great fourth option. he's been amazing since being traded to the dodgers (6-1 with a 2.20 ERA), maybe he's found some motivation to really compete considering he grew up a dodgers fan and he's finally on a contending team. a 4 man playoff rotation of kershaw-greinke-ryu-nolasco is filthy
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Old 09-02-2013, 09:00 AM   #1518
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Reds keep underachieving, thanks to the "leadership" from one of THE worst managers in baseball, and a team that at times looks bored, tired, and slow. Yeah, we will probably get the final WC, and anything can happen, but relying on "hope" is a dangerous strategy. Votto/Phillips, etc weren't signed to big money deals, and we didnt get Choo, so that we could compete for the 2nd wild card. Just a real disappointing season up to this point.
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Old 09-02-2013, 12:41 PM   #1519
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Reds keep underachieving, thanks to the "leadership" from one of THE worst managers in baseball, and a team that at times looks bored, tired, and slow. Yeah, we will probably get the final WC, and anything can happen, but relying on "hope" is a dangerous strategy. Votto/Phillips, etc weren't signed to big money deals, and we didnt get Choo, so that we could compete for the 2nd wild card. Just a real disappointing season up to this point.


Pull the gun out of your mouth. The team is 15 games over .500, in a "playoff" spot (I use this term loosely), and 3.5 games out of first in a division with the two teams ahead of them at 79-57. There is a month of baseball left to play.

And over 162-game season every single team in baseball looks "bored, tired, and slow" at some point. It's pretty much impossible to go through that many games and not have stretches of poor performance.
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Old 09-02-2013, 03:21 PM   #1520
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I had no clue the Dice-K was pitching again. The Braves thank you. Freddie Freeman thanks you.

Oh, and Freddie Freeman is really f***ing good.
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Old 09-02-2013, 05:22 PM   #1521
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dice k piece of shit doesnt belong in the majors with his 10.95 ERA.

and he throws like 30 pitches an inning, i remember him doing that even when he was good with the red sox.
fck this guy, fck off the mets team, they have enough problems as it is
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Old 09-02-2013, 06:05 PM   #1522
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Kershaw with the 2 out, 2 run single to give the Dodgers a 5-3 lead! his 9th and 10th RBI

crazy stat: kershaw is 51-0 when getting 4 or more runs of support

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Old 09-02-2013, 08:48 PM   #1523
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Pull the gun out of your mouth. The team is 15 games over .500, in a "playoff" spot (I use this term loosely), and 3.5 games out of first in a division with the two teams ahead of them at 79-57. There is a month of baseball left to play.

And over 162-game season every single team in baseball looks "bored, tired, and slow" at some point. It's pretty much impossible to go through that many games and not have stretches of poor performance.


I do recognize that my POV looks pretty silly from the outside perspective, and technically, you are right. I am just not a fan of Dusty Baker at ALL, and this team mirrors him. Zero accountability for guys making mistakes, and if you hear him talk, it doesn't seem like he has much of a pulse on the clubhouse. Just lots of excuse making. They can't run the bases very well, and outside of a few, the lineup consists of a lot of streaky free swingers.

Also, much of the year has featured low OBP guys like Zack Cozart batting 2nd, which is one of the main reasons why Joey Votto has a lot RBI total.

Zero complaints about the starting rotation and bullpen, though.

Obviously, great win today, and the talent is there to go on a great September run, but lots of blown recent series' against bad teams could be the difference between winning the division, and settling for the 2nd WC.
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Old 09-03-2013, 12:43 PM   #1524
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I do recognize that my POV looks pretty silly from the outside perspective, and technically, you are right. I am just not a fan of Dusty Baker at ALL, and this team mirrors him. Zero accountability for guys making mistakes, and if you hear him talk, it doesn't seem like he has much of a pulse on the clubhouse. Just lots of excuse making. They can't run the bases very well, and outside of a few, the lineup consists of a lot of streaky free swingers.

Also, much of the year has featured low OBP guys like Zack Cozart batting 2nd, which is one of the main reasons why Joey Votto has a lot RBI total.

Zero complaints about the starting rotation and bullpen, though.

Obviously, great win today, and the talent is there to go on a great September run, but lots of blown recent series' against bad teams could be the difference between winning the division, and settling for the 2nd WC.


I've been wanting a Reds fan perspective on this. My dad has Votto in our keeper league, and almost every time we talked this summer he mentioned Votto not having any RBI's, complaining about Cozart batting 2nd and never being on base, and wondering why Dusty Baker won't try something new. Neither of us are real familiar with the Reds farm system, but he did mention something about calling Billy Hamilton up and trying him a lead-off and Choo batting 2nd (or just keeping Choo at lead-off and Hamilton 2nd) but that was just him speculating out of frustration. No idea if Hamilton is even ready for the show or handling hitting at the top of the order.

I'm guessing Ludwick getting hurt early in the year and being out most of the season kind of screwed up things since Phillips would've been batting 2nd, but still...why not trying something else? And of course Votto drawing a ton of walks hasn't helped matters any. I mean that's great from a baseball perspective but torture if you have him in a 4x4 fantasy league that doesn't use OBP.
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Old 09-03-2013, 01:15 PM   #1525
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The Pirates are 1 game away from breaking the losing seasons streak. Praise Jesus.
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Old 09-03-2013, 03:47 PM   #1526
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I've been wanting a Reds fan perspective on this. My dad has Votto in our keeper league, and almost every time we talked this summer he mentioned Votto not having any RBI's, complaining about Cozart batting 2nd and never being on base, and wondering why Dusty Baker won't try something new. Neither of us are real familiar with the Reds farm system, but he did mention something about calling Billy Hamilton up and trying him a lead-off and Choo batting 2nd (or just keeping Choo at lead-off and Hamilton 2nd) but that was just him speculating out of frustration. No idea if Hamilton is even ready for the show or handling hitting at the top of the order.

I'm guessing Ludwick getting hurt early in the year and being out most of the season kind of screwed up things since Phillips would've been batting 2nd, but still...why not trying something else? And of course Votto drawing a ton of walks hasn't helped matters any. I mean that's great from a baseball perspective but torture if you have him in a 4x4 fantasy league that doesn't use OBP.
The Reds just called up Billy Hamilton, but he's a pretty awful hitter and not a great on base guy. He'll probably be the Reds new #2 hitter.

Seriously though, Choo or Votto should be batting 2ns, period.
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For some reason, managers love putting crappy fast guys at #2 in the order. Usually light-hitting infielders who never get on base enough for their speed to matter. John Gibbons (who I like as a manager) did the same thing putting Emilion Bonifacio and Maicer Izturis at #2 at times this year. It's beyond frustrating given he also put Jose Bautista at #2 for a bit as well, which was great.
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For some reason, managers love putting crappy fast guys at #2 in the order. Usually light-hitting infielders who never get on base enough for their speed to matter. John Gibbons (who I like as a manager) did the same thing putting Emilion Bonifacio and Maicer Izturis at #2 at times this year. It's beyond frustrating given he also put Jose Bautista at #2 for a bit as well, which was great.
Fredi (to everyone's chagrin) did the same thing with Andrelton Simmons, except in the leadoff spot, for a lot of the year.

If you don't have a true 2 hitter or leadoff, just make sure your best hitters are getting the most PAs per game. When Heyward was healthy that was working great, with Justin Upton in the 2-hole.

Royals have also used Alex Gordon in the leadoff spot for a lot of the year. Same concept.

EDIT: I didn't realize how bad of an offensive player Zack Cozart is. .251/.285/.377? 76 wRC+? Yuck, that's terrible even for a shortstop.

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Fredi (to everyone's chagrin) did the same thing with Andrelton Simmons, except in the leadoff spot, for a lot of the year.

If you don't have a true 2 hitter or leadoff, just make sure your best hitters are getting the most PAs per game. When Heyward was healthy that was working great, with Justin Upton in the 2-hole.

Royals have also used Alex Gordon in the leadoff spot for a lot of the year. Same concept.
Yeah, I don't think it's much of a coincidence that the Braves getting hot coincided with Fredi finally moving Heyward to lead-off and Justin to the 2-hole.

On another note, B.J. Upton is 13-for-29 in his last eight games and is now batting an even .200 for the season.
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Harold Reynolds all but dismissed the idea of McCutchen winning the MVP because of his RBI total and said that Yasiel Puig, who has played 80 games, deserves consideration.
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