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Old 01-10-2013, 10:15 PM   #46
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Pirates deal with Liriano on hold after he injured his non throwing arm over the holidays
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:16 PM   #47
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Pirates deal with Liriano on hold after he injured his non throwing arm over the holidays
And the Red Sox's' deal with Mike Napoli is still on hold due to a hip injury.
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:17 PM   #48
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The west is much worse for a hitter because every park but Texas is an extreme pitchers park.(one reason why rangers hitters home road splits will always look worse than normal, yes tbia is a hitters park but it's also that the other 3 parks are among the 10 best pitchers parks in baseball) given the unbalanced schedule, you don't want to spend over 100 games playing in Seattle, Anaheim and Oakland.

I wasn't speaking of which divisions were the worst to hit in, I meant that the divisions as a whole are a bitch to play in. They're two very competitive divisions, while the central is lacking.
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Pirates deal with Liriano on hold after he injured his non throwing arm over the holidays

Liriano isn't very good.
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Old 01-10-2013, 10:18 PM   #50
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Hard to believe a 3,000 hit guy isn't a first ballot HoFer.

As for Bagwell, his case would be a lot more compelling had he hit about 50 more bombs.
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Justin Upton rejects trade to Mariners

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Mariners send SS Nick Franklin, LHP Charlie Furbush, RHP Stephen Pryor and one of Danny Hultzen, Taijuan Walker or James Paxton to the D-Backs for Upton.


Also, it's now being reported that the Rangers have moved on from trying to acquire Justin Upton after their final offer was turned down today by the D-Backs.
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Hard to believe a 3,000 hit guy isn't a first ballot HoFer.

As for Bagwell, his case would be a lot more compelling had he hit about 50 more bombs.

If he weren't under the suspicion of using performance enhancing drugs then he would be a first ballot hall of famer, simple as that.
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If he weren't under the suspicion of using performance enhancing drugs then he would be a first ballot hall of famer, simple as that.
What's the basis for that suspicion?
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What's the basis for that suspicion?

I'm not suspicious but some writers say he showed up to spring training one year 30 lbs lighter. Of course this is all completely unfair but it is what it is.
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What's the basis for that suspicion?

He also played in the meat of the steroid era and put up eye popping numbers, every player is going to be under at least a little suspicion.
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He also played in the meat of the steroid era and put up eye popping numbers, every player is going to be under at least a little suspicion.
I understand what you mean but that's crap. He wasn't on the Mitchell report and he's never even been accused by anyone
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It's totally unfair that every single power hitter in that era (save for Thome and maybe Frank Thomas) is suspected of using Steroids. It sucks because Bagwell is a HOF and there's no basis for any suspicion.
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I understand what you mean but that's crap. He wasn't on the Mitchell report and he's never even been accused by anyone

Of course it's crap but this is what that era did to people. There are some writers who won't vote anyone in from that era. A few writers left their ballots completely blank for this past hall of fame vote, didn't check yes, didn't check no, just blank.
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It's totally unfair that every single power hitter in that era (save for Thome and maybe Frank Thomas) is suspected of using Steroids. It sucks because Bagwell is a HOF and there's no basis for any suspicion.

Jim Thome, Frank Thomas and Ken Griffey Jr. are the only power hitters that come to mind that aren't suspected of using steroids. I think they'll all get in.
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Btw for all of the talk about roses hits, he also made 1200 more outs than anyone else in the history of baseball
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