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Old 01-10-2013, 12:16 AM   #1
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Exclamation Wilt claims his bodyweight in the 1960's peaked at 365lbs

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...strength&hl=en

Wilt loves to tell tall tales, do any of you think he ever got that heavy or do you think it's an exaggeration? Highest weight listed via newspaper print from that time says that in 1963-1964 season he entered the Warriors pre-season training camp at 320lbs (also there are printed articles of him weighing 315lbs and 300lbs from his playing years). Outside of those articles the highest other documented weight for him was after he retired, 327lbs when he worked out with Arnold Schwartzenegger for the movie Conan the Destroyer. Shaq and Charles Barkley have both weighed as much as 378lbs after they retired, the heaviest Shaq weighed during his playing career was 368lbs IIRC - what do you guys think, just another Wilt tall tale?
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Old 01-10-2013, 12:24 AM   #2
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Default Re: Wilt claims his bodyweight in the 1960's peaked at 365lbs

Jerry West tells a story about Wilt's ability to eat ridiculous amounts of food

http://youtu.be/PlCyWalgFkA?t=12m19s
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Default Re: Wilt claims his bodyweight in the 1960's peaked at 365lbs

From my files:

summer before 59-60 season:

239

59-60:

250
250
250
x

60-61:

260
252
x
265

61-62:

250
240
300
280

62-63:

250
250
x
300

63-64:

300
290
290
x

64-65:

290
275
265
276

65-66:

x
285
275
x

66-67:

275
275
290
x

67-68:

x
x
x
275

68-69:

275
300
x
x

69-70:

275
270
270
x

70-71:

275
290
300
275

71-72:

275
280
x
x

72-73:

x
x
285
x

before 73-74 season:

300

For each of his playing years, there are four numbers ('x' meaning I don't have two independent sources). The first number in each set is from the preseason, the second from early season (pre-All Star break), the third is deep into the season, the fourth is during/after the playoffs.

The are just his playing weights though. I've seen a couple of papers list his weight in the 310-325 range during offseasons, though I only have single sources for them. Later in his life I think Wilt could've approached a high weight, though I don't think he played at much higher than 300lbs.

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Default Re: Wilt claims his bodyweight in the 1960's peaked at 365lbs

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Originally Posted by fpliii
From my files:

summer before 59-60 season:

239

59-60:

250
250
250
x

60-61:

252
260
x
265

61-62:

250
240
300
280

62-63:

250
250
x
300

63-64:

300
290
290
x

64-65:

290
275
265
276

65-66:

x
285
275
x

66-67:

275
275
290
x

67-68:

x
x
x
275

68-69:

275
300
x
x

69-70:

275
270
270
x

70-71:

275
290
300
275

71-72:

275
280
x
x

72-73:

x
x
285
x

before 73-74 season:

300

For each of his playing years, there are four numbers ('x' meaning I don't have two independent sources). The first number in each set is from the preseason, the second from early season (pre-All Star break), the third is deep into the season, the fourth is during/after the playoffs.

The are just his playing weights though. I've seen a couple of papers list his weight in the 310-325 range during offseasons, though I only have single sources for them. Later in his life I think Wilt could've approached a high weight, though I don't think he played at much higher than 300lbs.

I've got tons of newspaper articles about his weight throwing those numbers around too but really to be realistic, 90% of his "printed" weights that aren't specific numbers (like the 250's/275's) are probably just a news writers pure conjecture or usage of his official list-weight, or even just re-printing a weight they saw printed about him in the past and it is all said casually in passing. Unless it's a very specific number, or they reveal a little bit of info about how they obtained that number it should be taken with a pretty heavy grain of Salt IMO

239 and 252 are both new-to-me numbers that look very intriguing, do you have the sources by chance?

I generally dismiss all of the even numbers or numbers that line up "perfectly" with his list info (250 even, or 275 even) but the ultra specific ones that interest me and I feel are genuinely revealing are:

*258lbs from a news story 1 month before his NBA debut
*265lbs from a 1962 season news story shortly after the 100 point game
*320/315lbs as per Alex Hannum about his training camp weights 1963-64
*292lbs mid season playing weight of 1964 (same season he came into camp overweight) stated by Chick Hearn in a Lakers documentary (this 292lbs number also validates the use of the "290lbs" numbers that were thrown around at around the same time period)
*295-300lbs as per an article I recently encountered that stated in spite of Wilt's list weights, he typically played between those aforementioned numbers towards the latter half of his career
*327lbs as specified in the 1980's after a "recent weigh in" (at the time of the movie Conan the Destroyer)


It's specific numbers or numbers with a bit more backstory into how the weight numbers were obtained that interest me the most

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Old 01-10-2013, 12:58 AM   #5
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I've got tons of newspaper articles about his weight throwing those numbers around too but really to be realistic, 90% of his "printed" weights that aren't specific numbers (like the 250's/275's) are probably just a news writers pure conjecture or usage of his official list-weight said casually in passing. Unless it's a very specific number, or they reveal a little bit of info about how they obtained that number it should be taken with a pretty heavy grain of Salt

239 and 252 are both new-to-me numbers that look very intriguing, do you have the sources by chance?

I generally dismiss all of the even numbers or numbers that line up "perfectly" with his list info (250 even, or 275 even) but the ultra specific ones that interest me and I feel are genuinely revealing are:

*258lbs from a news story 1 month before his NBA debut
*265lbs from a 1962 season news story shortly after the 100 point game
*320/315lbs as per Alex Hannum about his training camp weights 1963-64
*292lbs mid season playing weight of 1964 (same season he came into camp overweight) stated by Chick Hearn in a Lakers documentary
*295-300lbs as per an article I recently encountered that stated in spite of Wilt's list weights, he typically played closer to 300lbs towards the latter half of his career
*327lbs as specified in the 1980's after a "recent weigh in" (at the time of the movie Conan the Destroyer)


It's specific numbers or numbers with a bit more backstory into how the weight numbers were obtained that interest me the most

252 should actually be the second number that season, I'll swap them. Here are the sources:

http://www25.zippyshare.com/v/35550872/file.html
http://www25.zippyshare.com/v/66732465/file.html

I think he played around the 300 mark for most of his time in LA, as well as in the mid-60s (before playing for the Sixers; most mentions of a high weight are around that 63-64 season when the Warriors went to the Finals).
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Default Re: Wilt claims his bodyweight in the 1960's peaked at 365lbs

I think at one point Shaq was near 400 pounds, maybe heavier.
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Default Re: Wilt claims his bodyweight in the 1960's peaked at 365lbs

Dwight weighs in at 265. Wilt was 3 inches taller, but at 5 lbs/inch to account for extra bones and shit, he was still never carrying ~85 lbs more muscle than Dwight.
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Dwight weighs in at 265. Wilt was 3 inches taller, but at 5 lbs/inch to account for extra bones and shit, he was still never carrying ~85 lbs more muscle than Dwight.
Wilt has extra bones?

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I think at one point Shaq was near 400 pounds, maybe heavier.
Highest number I remember reading about during his playing career was 368 (that was during his Laker years too), and I don't doubt it may have been higher because after he retired there was footage I saw of him stepping on a scale at 378lbs, for like the Barkley weight loss challenge or something I think, so his frame has definitely been shown to support around 380 when he lets himself go
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