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Old 01-22-2013, 07:05 PM   #16
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Pretty sad when you read this and think "only" 3 have been shot.
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That's the excuse the gun nuts typically use.

Uh… if there was stricter gun laws some of these guns wouldn't be obtained, legally or illegally. It will only make it harder to obtain and then to traffic.

YES the illegal black market will exist, but it will become harder for criminals to obtain them.

And NO, not all guns obtained by gangs are illegal. I've known plenty of people that obtained them legally.


What a dolt you are. If you want to remove the guns that are "illegally owned", then you have to remove guns all together. That will never happen. Just like you can never remove all knives, axes, spears either. The mind of the criminal is set on committing a crime whether a weapon is used or not. There are plenty of shootings that go unreported where there are NO fatalities. Are you telling me that if stricter gun laws were in place, that the perp or perps aren't going to use something else to instill harm?? You are delusional then.
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Old 01-22-2013, 07:39 PM   #18
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What a dolt you are. If you want to remove the guns that are "illegally owned", then you have to remove guns all together. That will never happen. Just like you can never remove all knives, axes, spears either. The mind of the criminal is set on committing a crime whether a weapon is used or not. There are plenty of shootings that go unreported where there are NO fatalities. Are you telling me that if stricter gun laws were in place, that the perp or perps aren't going to use something else to instill harm?? You are delusional then.

Are you saying that there are other weapons or tools perps can use that are AS effective as guns? Guns facilitate fear and death far quicker than anything else. Guns are also popular because they are easy to use and create distance between the victim and the attacker. What else gives you that sort of control and range?
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Are you saying that there are other weapons or tools perps can use that are AS effective as guns? Guns facilitate fear and death far quicker than anything else. Guns are also popular because they are easy to use and create distance between the victim and the attacker. What else gives you that sort of control and range?


There's money in Guns. There's an underlying allure that some of us are blind to or fail to admit. In today's gangster culture, having a gun is synonymous with power and with having the upper hand even though these clowns get busted way before they can even use one. Guns are in music, movies, books, video games. Yet somehow we can't seem to make the disconnect from what is art, and what is reality. Yes, the symbolic usage of a gun in movies and music and comic books is purely art.

I think the question we Americans should be asking is why do we need a gun in the first place? How can we curb this almost instinctive reason to own a gun? Everyone has their own reason, but there is no real concrete reason that outweighs the other. How can we honestly answer that question, feel safe about our society around us, and yet still keep our rights. And that's the real reason I have beef with this. Quit looking at the Constitution and finding loopholes to take away or limit certain rights. I think Liberals are politicizing the hell out of this when this day and age pales in comparison to the days of the Wild Wild West or during the era of Prohibition where there was a popular gangster in every corner of the country.
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That's the excuse the gun nuts typically use.

Uh… if there was stricter gun laws some of these guns wouldn't be obtained, legally or illegally. It will only make it harder to obtain and then to traffic.

YES the illegal black market will exist, but it will become harder for criminals to obtain them.

And NO, not all guns obtained by gangs are illegal. I've known plenty of people that obtained them legally.

You really have no clue what you're talking about do you?

2nd and 3rd paragraph scream ignorance.
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Old 01-22-2013, 08:01 PM   #21
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My sister takes classes there. I heard the news and I immediately called to check on her. Believe me I was a bit worried for a moment there.
Thankfully she didn't have school today.

We definitely need more regulations. Too many kids and unstable people in possession of firearms. Violence on TV, movies, and video games don't really help either. They only numb perceptions. The conflicts of the world and the reality of punishment become alien ideas.
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I think the question we Americans should be asking is why do we need a gun in the first place?

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62-Year-Old With Gun Only One Standing Between Nation And Full-Scale Government Takeover

NORFOLK, VA—According to numerous reports, local 62-year-old Earl Bailey, who owns a shotgun and several boxes of ammunition, is currently the last bastion of defense between the United States of America and the federal government’s plot of a full-scale takeover.

Bailey, a recent retiree and a proud advocate of gun rights, has been confirmed by multiple sources as being a true patriot, and is, at present, the only person capable of preventing top-secret forces within the government from striking and forcefully coercing hundreds of millions of Americans to submit to a fascist and brutal New World Order.

Since the early 1990s, sources estimated the gun owner has staved off innumerable large-scale government threats, all from the center of his 12-acre ranch.

“It is every American’s right to be good and armed, and that’s a right that should always be protected,” said Bailey, now the sole American protecting the nation from the government’s hidden plot of disarming all citizens, gradually gaining control of the mass media, and installing martial law throughout the nation’s streets. “Our Founding Fathers intended for each and every one of us to protect ourselves from tyranny. That’s what America is all about.”

“What happens when the feds show up at your front door and start telling you how much meat you can eat or how to raise your kids?” continued the lifetime NRA member, brandishing the very weapon that now serves as the final hope of staving off a totalitarian state. “Is that the future you want?”

Bailey, who keeps his gun on his person at all times and regularly patrols his property in his truck, has reportedly struck dread into the very highest-ranking members of the U.S. government. According to sources, top government and military officials are fully aware that they remain unable to commence with their oppressive, systematic subjugation of the American populace as long as the 62-year-old owner of a rifle exists.

Additional reports confirmed that Bailey’s frequent practice of shooting his gun at empty bean cans in his backyard has repeatedly forced government officials to reassess both their ground and air strategies for the impending takeover.

“The way I see it, the Second Amendment’s been keeping this nation free and secure for well over 200 years,” Bailey said, valiantly standing in front of his home that is constantly being monitored by CIA agents and elite Special Forces operatives, who are told to maintain a safe distance from the formidable 62-year-old. “First they’ll come for our guns and next…well, shoot, I don’t really plan on ever seeing what the hell happens next.”

While the federal government is more than adequately prepared to begin the first phase of its plan of convoying Second Amendment adherents to newly established FEMA concentration camps, high-level members of the Obama Administration involved in the widespread conspiracy confirmed that they have been forced to resort to alternate methods due solely to Bailey’s heroics.

“As long as there’s someone like Earl out there with a gun and ammunition, we are unable to carry out our attack on America,” said Maxwell Caufield, a covert military leader in charge of the operation to turn the country into an authoritarian, one-party state wherein the basic rights of citizens are stripped away in order to create total government control. “Try as we did to spread our distorted gun control propaganda—claiming that it would protect innocent people across the country from needless deaths—the man just wouldn’t bite. There is simply nothing we can do about Earl and his gun, damn him.”

“You’ve got to hand it to him, really,” Caufield added. “If it weren’t for Earl, you’d be looking at a totally different country.”


That's why.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/62y...n-natio,30984/

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Old 01-22-2013, 09:29 PM   #25
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What the ****? Didn't these guys know that the college is a gun-free zone? I thought everyone followed laws?
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What the ****? Didn't these guys know that the college is a gun-free zone? I thought everyone followed laws?

Law is hard isn't it.
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That's the excuse the gun nuts typically use.

Uh… if there was stricter gun laws some of these guns wouldn't be obtained, legally or illegally. It will only make it harder to obtain and then to traffic.

YES the illegal black market will exist, but it will become harder for criminals to obtain them.

And NO, not all guns obtained by gangs are illegal. I've known plenty of people that obtained them legally.


also tell me more about how criminals follow laws.
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also tell me more about how criminals follow laws.

The operative word was "some" not "all"...
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The operative word was "some" not "all"...

But makes it harder for ALL law abiding citizens to buy a gun.
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the gun control debate is a FALSE DEBATE. people arguing all the wrong points.

in order to drive a car: skills test, written test, eye test, registration with the state, car insurance

in order to legally own a gun: go to a gun show with a wad of cash, go home with gun. no competency test, no background check...


i am not saying we should ban all guns any more than i am saying we should ban all cars. it is mindblowingly absurd that people can walk into a gunshow with cash and go home with an assault rifle that same day. the current system is severely flawed, and as a national we should have a real debate about gun control instead of pointless and empty rhetoric.
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