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Old 01-23-2013, 02:45 PM   #16
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Default Re: Synergy stats confirms that Dwight is worthless in the post

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Ahh ok. He's worthless right now, but he still isn't 100% healthy either. He should just hang it up this season and focus on getting completely healthy and tear it up again next season like he's done most of the time other than this season. I'll try to find the synergy data for earlier seasons so we can see how worthless he is overall for his career and not not 30 something games into a season coming off of back surgery with a new coach and new teammates.

dwight would be the first one making excuses if he was not yet healthy, haven't seen em yet...
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Old 01-23-2013, 02:47 PM   #17
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interesting. (not intradasting)

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Old 01-23-2013, 02:57 PM   #18
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Default Re: Synergy stats confirms that Dwight is worthless in the post

Somebody else did post the stats for before his injury, and he was above average then in the post. But I could have told you that, in fact I did.

But Dwight does need more post ups. He hasn't looked good, but he also hasn't had a chance to get into any sort of rhythm. The touches he does get are not good touches.
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Old 01-23-2013, 03:08 PM   #19
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Maybe someone on the team should print 15 of those off and pass them around the locker room tonight before the game.
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Old 01-23-2013, 03:14 PM   #20
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Default Re: Synergy stats confirms that Dwight is worthless in the post

you got to remember he was .88 points per possession in the post by mid december.

to drop by over a tenth in ppp, that means he'd have to be excruciatingly bad in the post since then. but no, this dude wants to play inside out, when inside out is what's been happening on a 6 game losing streaks.
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Old 01-23-2013, 03:15 PM   #21
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kinda defeats your post when you say roughly and then use numbers. either use the actual numbers or dont bother

and yes howard is not a great post player. He is a freak athlete and incredibly strong, but his post game is pretty weak.
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Old 01-23-2013, 03:17 PM   #22
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Default Re: Synergy stats confirms that Dwight is worthless in the post

According to Mr. Jabbar - Lebron is not a good spot up shooter.

According to Synergy Sports - Lebron is one of the best spot up shooters in the league.
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Old 01-23-2013, 03:20 PM   #23
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kinda defeats your post when you say roughly and then use numbers. either use the actual numbers or dont bother

and yes howard is not a great post player. He is a freak athlete and incredibly strong, but his post game is pretty weak.
This season? Dwight is scoring just 0.78 points per possession in the post, making 48.2 percent of his shots, and turning the ball over an astounding 19.7 percent of the time. One out of every five times you throw the ball into the post with Dwight, he's turning it over.
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Old 01-23-2013, 03:26 PM   #24
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This season? Dwight is scoring just 0.78 points per possession in the post, making 48.2 percent of his shots, and turning the ball over an astounding 19.7 percent of the time. One out of every five times you throw the ball into the post with Dwight, he's turning it over.
see, thats 1/5. dude in the OP is stating its "roughly 1/3rd". Thats a very big difference. I am not trying to say dwight has been good this year, simply that I would like someone to use the actual numbers, rather than rough (very rough apparently) approximations.
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Old 01-23-2013, 03:35 PM   #25
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Default Re: Synergy stats confirms that Dwight is worthless in the post

It's actually way worse than 1/5 though.

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/tn...-inside-3.nba/

Go 1 minute into the video for the Dwight Howard sucks hightight real. There are three turnovers, and only 1 was counted on Dwight in the stats (one of the tos counted towards pau and one to steve nash) when they were clearly due to Dwight not being able to handle a pass or the defender (Nazr Mohammed, mother effing scrub ass Nazr Mohammed I may add) moves him out of position due to bad footwork.

This occurs waaayy too much in Lakers games, entry passes into Dwight in the post where he gets murdered for position, that turn into Kobe, Nash, MWP , etc TOs that don't count towards Dwight to margin.
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Old 01-23-2013, 03:39 PM   #26
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Default Re: Synergy stats confirms that Dwight is worthless in the post

dwight just needs to reshape his game a bit, at this point. He needs to use his body to get position in the post, not his arm strength. Once he gets this down as normal practice, he'll be a force to reckon with yet again. He's played like that only 3 times this season. against the 6'9" jj hickson, where he dominated and against the 7 footer zeller, where he dominated as well.

when dwight gets that great position down low, team HAVE to double him, which benefits his team in every aspect. And the only way he'll get that position constantly is if he learns to use his body to back down his defenders
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I don't know why Dwight just doesn't dedicate himself to being a hustle player and post up exclusively on bench big men. I mean it's crazy that people were bashing Kobe for allegedly saying he could be the Tyson Chandler on the Lakers but now it seems he knows what he was talking about.
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:52 PM   #28
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I don't know why Dwight just doesn't dedicate himself to being a hustle player and post up exclusively on bench big men. I mean it's crazy that people were bashing Kobe for allegedly saying he could be the Tyson Chandler on the Lakers but now it seems he knows what he was talking about.
Kobe is smart but he wasn't counting on Dwight's larger than Shaq level ego.
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Default Re: Synergy stats confirms that Dwight is worthless in the post

Set screens and get rebounds. That's what I do when I'm not getting touches in the post.
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Somebody else did post the stats for before his injury, and he was above average then in the post. But I could have told you that, in fact I did.

But Dwight does need more post ups. He hasn't looked good, but he also hasn't had a chance to get into any sort of rhythm. The touches he does get are not good touches.
He can't seal his man to get the ball in position. A lot of this is his fault.
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