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Old 01-26-2013, 10:18 PM   #16
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The majority doesn't think that. Find me list that has Lebron ahead of Kobe all time.
Raises hand. And I don't like either player.
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:20 PM   #17
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Stop saying this bullshit! It's completely false! Retards will start thinking it's true when everyone knows for a fact that it isn't.

Dont worry, no one will think that
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:21 PM   #18
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Dont worry, no one will think that
Man, you'd be surprised. I talk to people who claim to know basketball and they sound just like these idiots. I usually just murder their logic and leave them looking stupid. But it's spreading.
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:23 PM   #19
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Man, you'd be surprised. I talk to people who claim to know basketball and they sound just like these idiots. I usually just murder their logic and leave them looking stupid. But it's spreading.

Why is it if you ranked Jordan and Kobe's playoff opponents by defensive rating that 20 out of the best 22 defenses faced were Kobe opponents?

04 Spurs 94.1
99 Spurs 95.0
04 Pistons 95.4
01 Spurs 98.0
01 76ers 98.9
08 Celtics 98.9
00 Suns 99.0
04 Rockets 99.0
02 Nets 99.5
01 Kings 99.6
04 Twolves 99.7
02 Spurs 99.7
03 Spurs 99.7

93 Knicks 99.7
97 Heat 100.6
00 Blazers 100.8
02 Kings 101.1
98 Pacers 101.6
08 Spurs 101.8
01 Blazers 101.8
09 Magic 101.9
00 Kings 102.1

MJ vs 97 Heat

Game 1 15 for 31
Game 2 4 for 15
Game 3 14 for 25
Game 4 9 for 35
Game 5 11 for 31

MJ vs 93 Knicks

Game 1 10 for 27
Game 2 12 for 32
Game 3 3 for 18
Game 4 18 for 30
Game 5 11 for 24
Game 6 8 for 24
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:34 PM   #20
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That was at point in time, not all time.
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:41 PM   #21
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That was at point in time, not all time.
That was before Lebron won his ring.
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:44 PM   #22
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That was before Lebron won his ring.
West then retracted that statement later that same year.
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Old 01-26-2013, 10:49 PM   #23
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Jordan, at age 28, in the 1991 playoffs (opponents DRtg - 106):
32/6/6 on 54% shooting
Kobe, at age 28, in the 2007 playoffs (opponents DRtg - 106):
32/6/5 on 46% shooting

Jordan, at age 30, in the 1993 playoffs (opponents DRtg - 105):
35.1ppg, .475%fg, 6.7reb, 6.0ast
Kobe, at age 30, in the 2009 playoffs (opponents DRtg - 105):
30.2ppg, .457%fg, 5.3reb, 5.5ast

Jordan, at age 33, in the '96 playoffs (opponents DRtg - 105):
30.7ppg, .459%fg, 4.9reb, 4.1ast
Kobe, at age 32, in the 2011 playoffs (opponents DRtg - 106):
22.8ppg, .446%fg, 3.4reb, 3.4ast

Jordan, at age 34, in the '97 playoffs (opponents DRtg - 102):
31.1ppg, .456%fg, 7.9reb, 4.8ast
Kobe, at age 33, in the 2012 playoffs (opponents DRtg - 104):
30.0ppg, .439%fg, 4.8reb, 4.3ast

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Old 01-26-2013, 10:58 PM   #24
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West then retracted that statement later that same year.
Of course he did, the outrage from Lakersnation, particularly from the Mamba boys forced him to.
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:03 PM   #25
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Why is it if you ranked Jordan and Kobe's playoff opponents by defensive rating that 20 out of the best 22 defenses faced were Kobe opponents?

04 Spurs 94.1
99 Spurs 95.0
04 Pistons 95.4
01 Spurs 98.0
01 76ers 98.9
08 Celtics 98.9
00 Suns 99.0
04 Rockets 99.0
02 Nets 99.5
01 Kings 99.6
04 Twolves 99.7
02 Spurs 99.7
03 Spurs 99.7

93 Knicks 99.7
97 Heat 100.6
[b]00 Blazers 100.8
02 Kings 101.1
98 Pacers 101.6
08 Spurs 101.8
01 Blazers 101.8
09 Magic 101.9
00 Kings 102.1

Makes sense. 1999-2004 was the toughest defensive era of the last 25 years.
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:06 PM   #26
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Of course he did, the outrage from Lakersnation, particularly from the Mamba boys forced him to.


What did he say?
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:54 PM   #27
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Of course he did, the outrage from Lakersnation, particularly from the Mamba boys forced him to.
West probably said that in the regular season, but then the Playoffs happened and Kobe dominated the last 2 rounds of the Playoffs he was like ugh...nevermind.
Didn't West say Kobe was he greatest Laker ever the next year?
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He breaks negative records years and years before he breaks the positive ones.

That's because he sucks in regards to being heavily overrated, and is just a chucking shotjacking fool who takes more shots than anyone in the league year to year. He has low basketball IQ, poor decision making on the floor, and isn't nearly as good as his stans make him out to be.

Stupid player - which is a direct reflection of his stans
u mad lebrons not top 10
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:57 PM   #29
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That was before Lebron won his ring.
One ring in a lockout season? Nobody has him over Kobe right now.
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:58 PM   #30
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u mad lebrons not top 10
Heat007 (Hank) is a D-Wade Stan. Mad that Kobe is always regarded as a better player than Wade.
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