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Old 01-27-2013, 01:07 AM   #1
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Default I see Kyrie Irving as a better scoring version of Chauncey Billups

he will thrive in like the 00 pistons or the current chicago bulls


move trade him for rose and the bulls probably will have a very good record
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:08 AM   #2
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he will thrive in like the 00 pistons or the current chicago bulls


move trade him for rose and the bulls probably will have a very good record

Billups has been a shooter his whole career. Kyrie Irving is a slasher with a wet jumper don't really see the comparison there.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:08 AM   #3
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Default Re: I see Kyrie Irving as a better scoring version of Chauncey Billups

Yeah, except he actually makes the big shots.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:09 AM   #4
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Default Re: I see Kyrie Irving as a better scoring version of Chauncey Billups

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Billups has been a shooter his whole career. Kyrie Irving is a slasher with a wet jumper don't really see the comparison there.

billips is a really good slasher, how do u think he gets so much freethrows always
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:10 AM   #5
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billips is a really good slasher, how do u think he gets so much freethrows always

Yeah but he always pump fakes or throws his body into people, Irving has way more moves going to the basket and finishes way better than Billups ever did, Andre Miller does the same thing Billups does.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:10 AM   #6
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Default Re: I see Kyrie Irving as a better scoring version of Chauncey Billups

Irving is already better than any form of Billups.

The only thing Billups ever had on Irving was experience and the leadership that comes with that.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:12 AM   #7
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Default Re: I see Kyrie Irving as a better scoring version of Chauncey Billups

We comparing dudes who got it done in the playoffs to dudes on lottery teams?
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:17 AM   #8
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Default Re: I see Kyrie Irving as a better scoring version of Chauncey Billups

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Irving is already better than any form of Billups.

The only thing Billups ever had on Irving was experience and the leadership that comes with that.



Yea, you let me know when Irving is good enough to win a FMVP.


No, he's not as good as Billups. He's talent. But you put him on that Pistons team, or a team as good as that Pistons team and suited to him, and he does not lead them near a title.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:26 AM   #9
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Yea, you let me know when Irving is good enough to win a FMVP.


No, he's not as good as Billups. He's talent. But you put him on that Pistons team, or a team as good as that Pistons team and suited to him, and he does not lead them near a title.
Exactly. Billups gets no respect for his game.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:33 AM   #10
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Yea, you let me know when Irving is good enough to win a FMVP.
Now.

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No, he's not as good as Billups. He's talent. But you put him on that Pistons team, or a team as good as that Pistons team and suited to him, and he does not lead them near a title.
Okay just one question: Were you an NBA fan who was old enough to form memories and to make rational judgments in 2004? And did you watch that Finals and the playoffs that led up to it?

Edit: Just to be clear, I'm not saying irving isn't being overrated in general at the moment; but as a huge fan of that Pistons team - in fact their upsetting the Lakers is a top 3 moment for me in all my life of being a basketball fan - it would kill me for Billups to get overrated / "legend status." Because the one who deserves it is Ben Wallace. Billups, Hamilton, Prince, Sheed, all of these guys are eternally irrelevant without Ben Wallace in the middle.

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Old 01-27-2013, 01:38 AM   #11
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Exactly. Billups gets no respect for his game.

Because people's game are not similar at all, I don't respect them?

Kyrie and Billups game are not similar at all other than they can both shoot
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Default Re: I see Kyrie Irving as a better scoring version of Chauncey Billups

Imo his potential is being an Allen Iverson with the intangibles.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:43 AM   #13
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Yeah, except he actually makes the big shots.

you do know billups has a nickname of mr big shot?
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you do know billups has a nickname of mr big shot?
http://www.pistonpowered.com/2010/09...y-mr-big-shot/

He has shot 16.7% FG in "clutch shots" in his career....
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:54 AM   #15
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For the record, I can't see what the hell would make Irving similar to Billups.


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Now.


Okay just one question: Were you an NBA fan who was old enough to form memories and to make rational judgments in 2004? And did you watch that Finals and the playoffs that led up to it?

Edit: Just to be clear, I'm not saying irving isn't being overrated in general at the moment; but as a huge fan of that Pistons team - in fact their upsetting the Lakers is a top 3 moment for me in all my life of being a basketball fan - it would kill me for Billups to get overrated / "legend status." Because the one who deserves it is Ben Wallace. Billups, Hamilton, Prince, Sheed, all of these guys are eternally irrelevant without Ben Wallace in the middle.



He's not close to good enough.


I was old enough to watch Billups' first postseason with Detroit, with him coming up the court and throwing up 3's in transition. I remember him coming into the league and being sent everywhere.


Billups, not Wallace, was the FMVP. Wallace was not as good as he was. The moment Billups got on that team he became their best player. Wallace wasn't even more important. He was the heart of the team, the guy you recognized. But the team could get by without him more so than they could without Billups. And that would be the one argument for Wallace and he doesn't even have that.


Billups was the best player on the floor during that series and it was obvious. Wallace was nothing resembling a FMVP.


Wallace was the core piece that established the team. The team went forward only because he didn't remain their best or most important player.
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