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Old 01-28-2013, 01:06 AM   #16
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Default Re: Why Isn't Miami a Dominant Team?

They aren't dominant. They went 58-24 in 2010, were on a 57 win pace in 2011 over 82 games and are on pace for 57 wins this year. They were the #2 seed in their own conference in 2010, 2011 and may be again this year when Rose returns . It is surprising they have been this good but not taken the step to dominance over the past 2 1/2 seasons. This, to a degree, is due to things mentioned in this thread, i.e. their weak roster outside the "Big 3", but I think a lot of it simply is a lack of motivation. They don't care too much about the regular season. They will take their 55-58 wins and the 2 seed and turn it on in the playoffs. This is one reason the 1996 Bulls record may stand forever: even if a future team has the capability to exceed it, having the will to do so is another thing. What made the 1996 and 1997 Bulls win 72 and 69 respectively is Pippen and Jordan hated to lose and played 100% every night, whether they were playing the Knicks or the Raptors. That level of intensity is hard to maintain over an entire season.
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Old 01-28-2013, 01:07 AM   #17
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Default Re: Why Isn't Miami a Dominant Team?

its cause of lebron op, dude just can't deliver in the 4th, they got old man ray to fix that hole but he is too old, glimpses of what he once was
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Old 01-28-2013, 01:07 AM   #18
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Default Re: Why Isn't Miami a Dominant Team?

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They aren't dominant. They went 58-24 in 2010, were on a 57 win pace in 2011 over 82 games and are on pace for 57 wins this year. They were the #2 seed in their own conference in 2010, 2011 and may be again this year when Rose returns . It is surprising they have been this good but not taken the step to dominance over the past 2 1/2 seasons. This, to a degree, is due to things mentioned in this thread, i.e. their weak roster outside the "Big 3", but I think a lot of it simply is a lack of motivation. They don't care too much about the regular season. They will take their 55-58 wins and the 2 seed and turn it on in the playoffs. This is one reason the 1996 Bulls record may stand forever: even if a future team has the capability to exceed it, having the will to do so is another thing. What made the 1996 and 1997 Bulls win 72 and 69 respectively is Pippen and Jordan hated to lose and played 100% every night, whether they were playing the Knicks or the Raptors. That level of intensity is hard to maintain over an entire season.
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Old 01-28-2013, 01:28 AM   #19
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Default Re: Why Isn't Miami a Dominant Team?

Because it's the regular season and they coast through the regular season.
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Old 01-28-2013, 01:30 AM   #20
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Because it's the regular season and they coast through the regular season.

The Heat can afford to coast. They play in a shit conference and they know it. The levels of Eastern Conference suckage is falling back to the depths of 2000-2003.
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Old 01-28-2013, 01:30 AM   #21
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they have no reason to be in the regular season. they value the postseason a lot more
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Default Re: Why Isn't Miami a Dominant Team?

Did anyone use the "coasting" excuse yet ...up wait too late.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:16 AM   #23
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'92 as well.
I'd say the Blazers were a more talented roster.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:39 AM   #24
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Because this year's Thunder, Spurs, and Clippers >>>>
All that motivation from last year is gone, Lebron was just happy to get 1.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:43 AM   #25
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Default Re: Why Isn't Miami a Dominant Team?

Is this thread a joke? Miami already been to the Finals twice. Would be going for a 3peat if Dallas didn't have that 4th q comeback in game 4 I think it was? People don't believe me when I tell them Miami will have a dynasty like those 90s Chicago teams.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:50 AM   #26
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Default Re: Why Isn't Miami a Dominant Team?

First off because they're small. Bosh isn't a center, and Battier isn't a pf.

2nd. Lebron's not about to go on a Jordan like run, as much as you all want to believe in the stats that may or may not suggest Lebron is lightyears beyond everyone else in this league and his presence alone means you've got the series won...I don't see it.

I'm not going to take anything away from Lebron's run last postseason. Amazing. I think a lot of things worked out favorably in terms of opponents and matchups, and the injury plagued lockout season may or may not have had a lot to do with that. But bottom line is...those penciling in the Heat to a title or at least to the Finals may be in for a rude awakening.
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Default Re: Why Isn't Miami a Dominant Team?

Yea, how can you not call this team dominant? Their first year they go to the Finals, beating a very good Celtics and Bulls team.

They basically implode in the Finals, due to Bron just going into casper status, otherwise this season they would be going for a very likely three peat.

Last year they survived a tough road in the playoffs with their 2nd best player Wade being hurt, and third best player Bosh missing the vast majority of the playoffs and not 100%, either.

They had their backs on the line in a series against the most dominant eastern conference team of the past 5 - 6 years, and took an all-time level performance from LeBron.

And then beat one of the most talented Finals competitors in recent memory.

But seriously 2 straight Finals trips since this roster's inception, a likely 3rd trip. They should already have two rings. They coast in the regular season, but they turn it up int he playoffs.

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But bottom line is...those penciling in the Heat to a title or at least to the Finals may be in for a rude awakening.
LOL ... who on earth in the Eastern Conference scares the Heat? Especially w/ Rose out for the Bulls, and now Rondo out for the Celtics?

You seriously don't think the Pacers could give the Heat a run? They couldn't do it last year with Bosh missing, and Wade inconsistent due to injury.

The Knicks have a small prayer if they catch absolute fire for a series from deep.

The one team out West who could've beat the Heat, got worse by trading James Harden.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:58 AM   #28
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Default Re: Why Isn't Miami a Dominant Team?

Bc they dont have a dom record
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:58 AM   #29
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Default Re: Why Isn't Miami a Dominant Team?

Because Birdman hasn't played yet. Get it right son.
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Old 01-28-2013, 04:23 AM   #30
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Default Re: Why Isn't Miami a Dominant Team?

Because their best two players are fairly redundant, and building with wings is historically not a very great idea (though Pip/MJ fared well due to exceptional fit...West/Baylor had issues in the postseason, in no small part due to those legendary Celtics teams).

That being said, if they win a couple more championships in their existence (which is at least two more years, probably a few more of LeBron resigns) I think some people will look back and say that they were a dominant team.
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