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Old 01-31-2013, 09:10 PM   #31
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*Kobe now 7/29 (24%) after last year's playoffs*
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:16 PM   #32
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*Kobe now 7/29 (24%) after last year's playoffs*
Jordan 6
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That's nice. But what does it have to do with the topic at hand?
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1 of those GW's was a travel vs the Wizards

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That's nice. But what does it have to do with the topic at hand?
You know exactly what it has to do with the topic. Lebron's been in 3 finals, 2 of them he was not good in the 4th quarters in which many of the games were close.
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You know exactly what it has to do with the topic. Lebron's been in 3 finals, 2 of them he was not good in the 4th quarters in which many of the games were close.

Then he was just doing his best Kobe impersonation

Bean has had plenty of shitty finals performances, and he's been abysmal in the clutch in the past few seasons. How could anyone forget THIS?

I don't think I've ever seen a player single-handedly blow a lead in a significant game like that. The #s don't lie- as a 'clutch' player, Kobe is grossly overrated.
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You know exactly what it has to do with the topic. Lebron's been in 3 finals, 2 of them he was not good in the 4th quarters in which many of the games were close.

Put Kobe in his shoes and he sucks just as badly if not more.
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Then he was just doing his best Kobe impersonation

Bean has had plenty of shitty finals performances, and he's been abysmal in the clutch in the past few seasons. How could anyone forget THIS?

I don't think I've ever seen a player single-handedly blow a lead in a significant game like that. The #s don't lie- as a 'clutch' player, Kobe is grossly overrated.

Why do you put so much effort into this?

Kind of creepy. What are you trying to prove exactly? Are you still in denial of Kobe being a top 10 player of all time?

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Why do you put so much effort into this?

Kind of creepy. What are you trying to prove exactly? Are you still in denial of Kobe being a top 10 player of all time?

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Nothing too surprising here if you watch the games and have paying attention to this type of stuff.

Melo's is too good though. I'd like to see all of his shots and all of his possessions...Did he turn the ball over a bunch of times? That would be worse than a missed shot.

Did he shoot a lot of the shots with 15 seconds left, while Kobe,Durant, and Lebron had a bunch of possessions where their team inbounded the ball with only like 4 seconds left? Because those situations are ridiculously tough to convert...all u can do really is take one dribble or two before shooting.
The kid that's in love with Durants comment about that stat not being fair to Durant was hilarious and so is yours. If it were just the last 5 seconds Carmelo's % is prob even higher. Really the game winning shots is just about the only thing Carmelo has on those other top guys. The percentage has gone down the last few years but on game winning shots during his Denver days it was ridiculous
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Just because some can't read CAREER game-tying and go-ahead shot attempts with under
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Discuss.

lol at Kobe. soooooooooooo 'Clutch'


I could be missing something here but didn't Kobe hit a buzzer beater on Prince last year which means he's 1-8? And that game winner vs the raptors?







Or am I missing something


EDIT: Just saw postseason
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Why do you put so much effort into this?

Kind of creepy. What are you trying to prove exactly? Are you still in denial of Kobe being a top 10 player of all time?


It doesn't take much effort at all, really

And I don't have to prove anything, just helping to clear up some common misconceptions and misguided hyperbole that's routinely thrown around. The truth>bullshit. That's a motto to live by
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It doesn't take much effort at all, really

And I don't have to prove anything, just helping to clear up some common misconceptions and misguided hyperbole that's routinely thrown around. The truth>bullshit. That's a motto to live by

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The kid that's in love with Durants comment about that stat not being fair to Durant was hilarious and so is yours. If it were just the last 5 seconds Carmelo's % is prob even higher. Really the game winning shots is just about the only thing Carmelo has on those other top guys. The percentage has gone down the last few years but on game winning shots during his Denver days it was ridiculous

Yeah, people just go off of reputation (even if it's not earned). The facts say that Carmelo is a beast in clutch situations (regular season at least).
Anyone who saw the Knicks overtime win against Chicago on Sunday afternoon can tell you that. Anthony hit a game-tying three-pointer with 11 seconds to go in regulation and a game-winning 3-pointer with 8 seconds left in overtime to beat the Bulls.

It was Anthony's signature moment as a Knick; he ranked the shots as one of the top moments in a career full of clutch buckets.

And he's had more than his fair share.

Among players that have taken at least 20 field goal attempts in game-tying or game-winning situations in the last 15 seconds of the 4th quarter or overtime in the past 10 years, Anthony ranks first in field-goal percentage (46.2), according to the Elias Sports Bureau. He has made 24 of 52.

His 24 field goals are second to Kobe Bryant's 26. But Bryant is shooting 30.2 percent in 'clutch' situations (26-86).

Need more evidence that Anthony is clutch?

He's shooting 46.7 percent on game-tying or go-ahead shots in the final 24 seconds of regulation or overtime. The only player with a higher career shooting percentage in such situations over the past 16 seasons? Shawn Marion, who has shot 47.4 percent in crunch time.

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/kni...carmelo-clutch
Looks like he's the #1 guy since his 24 sec % is at 47.4 now.

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Then he was just doing his best Kobe impersonation

Bean has had plenty of shitty finals performances, and he's been abysmal in the clutch in the past few seasons. How could anyone forget THIS?

I don't think I've ever seen a player single-handedly blow a lead in a significant game like that. The #s don't lie- as a 'clutch' player, Kobe is grossly overrated.
Bean has played a below 100 DRtg defense in the Finals 4 times. When MJ played a below 100 DRtg team in the playoffs he never shot over .401 FG%.

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Michael Jordan vs Defenses with better than 100 DRtg
'93 ECF vs New York: 32.2 ppg | 6.2 rpg | 7.0 apg | .400 fg% | .400 3p%
'97 ECF vs Miami: 30.2 ppg | 8.0 rpg | 2.6 apg .386 fg% | .118 3p%

Kobe Bryant vs Defenses with better than 100 DRtg
'99 WCSF vs San Antonio: 21.3 ppg | 6.5 rpg | 3.5 apg | .447 fg% | .333 3p%
'00 WCSF vs Phoenix: 21.0 ppg | 3.8 rpg | 3.4 apg | .452 fg% | .154 3p%
'01 WCSF vs Sacramento: 35.0 ppg | 9.0 rpg | 4.3 apg | .473 fg% | .200 3p%
'01 WCF vs San Antonio: 33.3 ppg | 7.0 rpg | 7.0 apg | .514 fg% | .357 3p%
'01 Finals vs Philadelphia: 24.6 ppg | 7.8 rpg | 5.8 apg | .415 fg% | .333 3p%
'02 WCSF vs San Antonio: 26.2 ppg | 5.4 rpg | 4.8 apg | .455 fg% | .231 3p%
'02 Finals vs New Jersey: 26.8 ppg | 5.8 rpg | 5.3 apg | .514 fg% | .545 3p%
'03 WCSF vs San Antonio: 32.3 ppg | 5.0 rpg | 3.7 apg | .434 fg% | .441 3p%
'04 WCQF vs Houston: 24.4 ppg | 5.6 rpg | 6.2 apg | .386 fg% | .211 3p%
'04 WCSF vs San Antonio: 26.3 ppg | 6.3 rpg | 5.8 apg | .462 fg% | .320 3p%
'04 WCF vs Minnesota: 24.3 ppg | 4.0 rpg | 5.5 apg | .414 fg% | .267 3p%
'04 Finals vs Detroit: 22.6 ppg | 2.8 rpg | 4.4 apg | .381 fg% | .174 3p%
'08 Finals vs Boston: 25.7 ppg | 4.7 rpg | 5.0 apg | .405 fg% | .321 3p%

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