as a Bulls fan, im more worried about OKC than the HEAT - Page 4 - Message Board Basketball Forum

livinglegend · 02-03-2013, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Clocian-IGN

3rd seed son w/o rose(and now no noah booz, kirk for 1-2 weeks). We'd be the 1 seed if rose was playing. yes we are still a top team.

2nd round exit at best.

All Net · 02-03-2013, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tikay0

Lets just say Rose will be 100%. This team's dynamic is completely changed. Now we have our microwave man in Nate Robinson. Before, it was pray that Korver gets hot from the arc.

Our defense is still elite, and our rebounding is also elite. We have so many more guards that can create their own shot, plus Noah/Jimmy have truly turned a corner this year. This Bulls team is nothing like last years, or the one before that one, that got to the ECF.

Not saying they havn't improved but it's one superstar and role players and that won't beat two superstars and one very good all-star.

97 bulls · 02-03-2013, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Money 23

Rose is not 6'3. He's closer to about 6'1. NBA exaggerates certain players heights. Iverson was listed 6' and he was like 5'11. Steve Nash is listed as 6'3, and he is NOT 6'3.

Rose didn't struggle to blow by LeBron. You obviously didn't understand what you were watching.

The Heat had no respect for the other Bulls players, they sagged off many of the perimeter players (Bogans, Brewer, even Korver) they didn't respect them, none could create off the dribble or finish at the rim v.s. elite athletes and defenders (Bron, Wade, even Chalmers)

Rose was the only one. Rose couldn't attack the rim the way he did v.s. the Pacers and Hawks, because everyone was focal pointing Rose drive to the basket. They wanted Rose doing step backs and shooting jumpers. Miami absolutely played Rose perfectly. I'm giving them the credit.

It was NOT however Rose and Bron on an island. The four other defenders weren't being distracted or held accountable for any other Chicago offensive threat. The rim was being defended well by Bosh, Haslem, and Anthony..

Bron took advantage of the situation dealt. Contest Rose jump shot. NOT THAT BIG of a deal. And certainly not the hand cuffs the way Miami / LeBron fans act like he put on Rose.

It was a situational defensive setting, and Bron did his job. It wasn't some superman effort taking on a player individually, with no help defense. It was Miami's help defense that shunned Rose's penetration game. Rose is so quick he is allowed to look past his man defender, and worry more about the other layers of defense.

In those 2011 playoffs, he had no where to go off the dribble. Seeing as how he had to be a playmaker and scorer to beat Miami, he was forced to hoist jumpers that were being contested by a top five defensive player in the league. And probably that season the best perimeter defender in the game.

What else do you seriously suggest Rose could've done? He was seriously handicapped by the talent on his roster.

Great post Money. My sentiments exactly. Unfortunately, I see this is gonna go down as one of those myths that people want to believe in order to prop up James legacy more.

This video shows how the Heat played Rose that series. Constant trapping. Not even worrying about the other players on the team.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks7ZQULwAxU#

tikay0 · 02-03-2013, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by All Net

Not saying they havn't improved but it's one superstar and role players and that won't beat two superstars and one very good all-star.

I guess you can call it Rose, and super role players. With a much deeper guard rotation. Also a guard rotation that can create for themselves.

Basketball isn't 1+2=3. You have to take into consideration, team dynamics, different roles for players, offensive system, etc.

Clocian-IGN · 02-03-2013, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by livinglegend

2nd round exit at best.

we'll see.

chazzy · 02-03-2013, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by All Net

Not saying they havn't improved but it's one superstar and role players and that won't beat two superstars and one very good all-star.

Team of role players? What are Noah and Deng this year?

dannysc305 · 02-03-2013, 03:53 AM

as a heat fan, op's a fagut. and thats the truth.

nobody gives fvck about the bulls :-D

we all know how our last playoff match up went down

SilkkTheShocker · 02-03-2013, 09:27 AM

Rose will just choke again. 6%

Real Men Wear Green · 02-03-2013, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by nathanjizzle

the heat last season went 7 games with the boston celtics. you know who else went 7 games with the boston celtics? rookie derrick rose and a poorer bulls, and this was when the celtics were defending champions not a washed up contender like last season.

thats just to give you a perspective of how overrated the heat are.

In case you forgot, that Celtic team didn't have KG.

Rubio2Gasol · 02-03-2013, 09:44 AM

Rose was injured, overworked from carrying the team for about a year, and being switched onto by everyone's man. That's fair enough.

But what makes you think it's not going to happen again?

Say Rose comes back 100% - he's still the only consistent scorer on that roster. One which has lost quite a bit with Korver and Osik.

2010splash · 02-03-2013, 10:04 AM

That's too bad... because the path to the 2013 title goes through Miami, not some weak-sauce small market OKC team that got crushed by them in the Finals last year and then proceeded to make their team worse by trading a budding superstar just to save money.

2010splash · 02-03-2013, 10:06 AM

If they're healthy, the West will go through San Antonio this year, not OKC.

Human Error · 03-08-2013, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by nathanjizzle

thats just the truth. im not worried about the heat, there weak against teams that are well balanced and play as a team. OKC dont have any weaknesses at this point, there weakness last season was inexperience, and now they have it.

Interesting post.

TheMan · 03-10-2013, 02:37 AM

Stupid worthless thread, sounds more like empty false bravado by the OP.

The Heat are on another level right now, get that through that thick skull of yours and stop embarrassing us Bulls fans who aren't delusional homers for fvcks sake.

nathanjizzle · 03-10-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMan

Stupid worthless thread, sounds more like empty false bravado by the OP.

The Heat are on another level right now, get that through that thick skull of yours and stop embarrassing us Bulls fans who aren't delusional homers for fvcks sake.

you seriously have a poor basketball opinon, lets wait at the end of the day when OKC man handles celtics who gave heat problems last post season, and the heat have problems with a team oriented indiana pacers.