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Old 02-06-2013, 12:38 AM   #31
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There were no sovereign nations back then. Of course they fought and conquered lands. These wars were won fair and square. The same way Mexicans claim it was their land before...you lost and turned over the land as a treaty. Colonists won with the help of the french.
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:04 AM   #32
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Of course there are. Those are the smart natives, the ones that have adapted and contributed to modern society instead of performing Ghost Dances and wishing for everyone to go away.

Holy f*cking racist.
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Old 02-06-2013, 02:27 AM   #33
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Anybody posting in this thread ever actually interacted with native americans? This one native dude is the minority.

Doesn't change his point though.
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Old 02-06-2013, 03:37 AM   #34
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Great Greg. STFU!
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Old 02-06-2013, 05:30 AM   #35
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Mexicans are just reconquering the lands through massive immigration. Exactly the same as Americans did to the Native Americans, except they used force. Mexicans are doing it without an army. Same end, different means. In battle there is no law.
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Damn some of you can't even admit to the sins of your forefathers, you might not be even remotely related to? Come on now, it does not take much manhood.
The video was great, dude single handedly dispersed those idiots, goes to show how strong their argument was
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:06 AM   #37
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Ancient Voices: Tracking The First Americans

According to this, Native Americans (those who originally came via the Bering land bridge) were not the first Americans and supposedly wiped out a population of Aborigines.
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Damn some of you can't even admit to the sins of your forefathers, you might not be even remotely related to? Come on now, it does not take much manhood.
The video was great, dude single handedly dispersed those idiots, goes to show how strong their argument was


I enjoyed the video too..

Mostly because it showed how absurd Americans can be with some of the ideas we hold.

White people whining about "their country" after all the dirty sh*t that was done to the native americans to kill them off and take their land.

its a real disgrace that we dont learn... But then again this is why these same idiots are out there screaming for "their country" today.. they never did learn anything from what happened in the past
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To the white protestors, "your land" is really across the Atlantic and in Europe...you're welcome to leave anytime you want!
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...its a real disgrace that we dont learn... But then again this is why these same idiots are out there screaming for "their country" today.. they never did learn anything from what happened in the past
cool... another thread to post my latest favorite quote:


That men do not learn very much from history is the most important of all the lessons that history has to teach. -- Aldous Huxley
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Mexicans are just reconquering the lands through massive immigration. Exactly the same as Americans did to the Native Americans, except they used force. Mexicans are doing it without an army. Same end, different means. In battle there is no law.
So true, that already happened elsewhere with the blessing of the USA. Remeber kosovo? It was nothing but Albanians that conquered land through massive reproduction. I still laugh every time i remember journalists talking about the Kosovar's and behind them crowds with only Albanian flags.


I wish Native Americans started to reproduce like mexicans, they are a cool race.

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To the white protestors, "your land" is really across the Atlantic and in Europe...you're welcome to leave anytime you want!

We all came from the same person.
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:25 PM   #45
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Pretty simple. White men settled, natives couldn't defend.
Who's responsible for the technological innovations of today? The cities? The military, which has defended the country countless times? The progress?
Sorry natives, America stopped being "your land" a long, looooong time ago.

I would say that the Natives technically did not own any land before the Colonials came over and took it from them. The boundaries of their nations were ill defined and this is to be expected from a primitive culture. I do not expect the Europeans would have acknowledged there poorly defined boundaries given that they were acquainted with a much more strongly pronounced structure of culture.

It does not make sense to put the blame the Europeans who were taking over land which they supposed which was vacated. That is it was occupied by a loosely structured formation of a certain tribe or confederation of tribes. I don't blame the Europeans for not acknowleding it was their land in large part because the Native Americans were so spread out.

This in part justifies the European takeover is that there was no true or authentic ownership of the land, we could apply the same to the primitive peoples of Africa, Central Asia, and the Southeastern Asian islands.

It's all crap. First of all, they warred endlessly before Europeans came to the Western Hemisphere. Secondly, why on earth with anyone with half a brain delegate a rich land to backward, frankly stupid tribes who will do nothing with it other than fight with other backward, frankly stupid tribes instead of allowing civilization and modernity to spread its arms? What kind of idiot would support such a thing?!

The "we had it first" argument is popularly being invoked to justify amnesty. Problem is, tribes that lived in modern Mexico never extended this far north. And in an imperialistic grab, they don't bother consulting those tribes that DID live here if they're welcome. So much for that.

Texas is really Tejas they tell us. Really? Before it was Tejas, it was Comancheria. Before it was Comancheria it was Apacheria. The Comanche dealt in slaves, including captured Mexicans. The Apache found it desirable to sell other Indians to the Spanish.

That all this has gone on since the dawn of humanity and that only whites are condemned for it speaks for itself.
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