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Old 02-22-2013, 01:09 PM   #31
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Any team who offers him that money or anything over $10mil would be a dumb move. That's how teams get into salary cap hell. If I was Miami I would resign Hartline, sign a low to mid level FA WR and possibly draft a WR in the first two rounds of the draft. That's the best scenario to fix their WR core.
Hartline, average FA wr, and a rookie WR? Sounds like a horrible WR core. Hartline is a 2nd option WR at BEST. Why mid to low FA when they have all the cap space in the world to settle their biggest need.\? Just pick between wallace, jennings, bowe, amendola ect.. The draft this year on WR isn't that good either.

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Old 02-22-2013, 04:30 PM   #32
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Hartline, average FA wr, and a rookie WR? Sounds like a horrible WR core. Hartline is a 2nd option WR at BEST. Why mid to low FA when they have all the cap space in the world to settle their biggest need.\? Just pick between wallace, jennings, bowe, amendola ect.. The draft this year on WR isn't that good either.

Cap management. Don't spend 14mil on an undeserving WR like Jennings just for the sake of filling a need. If they can get a player like Wallace or Bowe for like 6-8mil that's great but there's a need for WR's and these guys are probably going to break the bank. St.Louis, Washington, Minny, Indy, Cleveland, etc, will all be looking for WR's. Danny Amendola would be a good signing as I don't think he has the market value as other teams and the fact that slot WR's are good for young QB's. Resigning Hartline, signing a WR like Amendola and possibly drafting a WR in the first three rounds is good. Hartline, Bess, Amendola and top1-3 pick WR is a fine WR core. I'm also a strong believer that a good offensive system doesn't need great receivers to succeed.

Dolphins aren't probably going to contend next year and no need to ruin the future cap space overpaying for a question mark like Jennings. But they do need offensive weapons so it may be worth it.
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Old 02-22-2013, 07:47 PM   #33
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I'm just ready for the draft. This year's FA class isn't as strong as last year's. FA the past couple of seasons has been fun, but I have a feeling this year is weaker than recent.
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Cap management. Don't spend 14mil on an undeserving WR like Jennings just for the sake of filling a need. If they can get a player like Wallace or Bowe for like 6-8mil that's great but there's a need for WR's and these guys are probably going to break the bank. St.Louis, Washington, Minny, Indy, Cleveland, etc, will all be looking for WR's. Danny Amendola would be a good signing as I don't think he has the market value as other teams and the fact that slot WR's are good for young QB's. Resigning Hartline, signing a WR like Amendola and possibly drafting a WR in the first three rounds is good. Hartline, Bess, Amendola and top1-3 pick WR is a fine WR core. I'm also a strong believer that a good offensive system doesn't need great receivers to succeed.

Dolphins aren't probably going to contend next year and no need to ruin the future cap space overpaying for a question mark like Jennings. But they do need offensive weapons so it may be worth it.
Wallace will get paid more than 8 mil you already know that so are you saying we should tank and not try to contend next year for idk how many years in a row? Wallace Bowe and Jennings are all worth more than injury prone amendola, amendola is a slot WR is he not? We already have one of those. Hartline is the opposite of a play maker and we could easily let him walk if we have too, he certainly isn't worth 6 mil currently says he wants unless you live in FF. You should be smart enough to know Greg Jennings won't get 14 mil and that source isn't really trust worthy. I don't see your logic in cap management when you consider overpaying WR by 2-3 mil as "breaking the bank" We have 45 mil and we have top spend a shit load of it due to the new CPA. If you knew anything about the dolphins it would be we need play makers and we have none at the WR position with a rookie QB. We have a QB and good defense with 5 picks in the first 3 rounds and 45 mil in the cap this isn't the time to just sit and hope the contend by hitting on a few draft picks which won't put us over the top immediately.
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:02 AM   #35
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Eagles interested in signing CB Sean Smith from Miami but reportedly would like to avoid a bidding war in order to not jack up his asking price. Reportedly asking for 3 years/24 mil.
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Eagles interested in signing CB Sean Smith from Miami but reportedly would like to avoid a bidding war in order to not jack up his asking price. Reportedly asking for 3 years/24 mil.
Only a retard would pay that kind of money, and he's a number 2 corner at best. He's the complete opposite of a playmaker and can't catch a ball worth shit if his life was on the line. I mean 24 mil guaranteed really? /facepalm

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Only a retard would pay that kind of money, and he's a number 2 corner at best. He's the complete opposite of a playmaker and can't catch a ball worth shit if his life was on the line. I mean 24 mil guaranteed really? /facepalm

No one knows how much is guaranteed. Its definitively not $24mil.
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No one knows how much is guaranteed. Its definitively not $24mil.
I'm going off by what's being reported (see link below), he isn't close to being worth 3/24 mil and 24 mil guaranteed would be insane. I hope to god we don't pick that scrub, way better players in the draft and more options in FA as well.

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/256278/report-sean-smith-seeking-$24m-guaranteed
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I'm going off by what's being reported (see link below), he isn't close to being worth 3/24 mil and 24 mil guaranteed would be insane. I hope to god we don't pick that scrub, way better players in the draft and more options in FA as well.

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/256278/report-sean-smith-seeking-$24m-guaranteed

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The Eagles have released DT Cullen Jenkins.
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A person familiar with the contract tells The Associated Press that Tom Brady has received a three-year extension from the New England Patriots worth about $27 million.
The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the extension has not been announced.
The 35-year-old two-time league MVP was signed through 2014, and has said he wants to play five more years. By redoing his contract Monday, Brady also has cleared nearly $15 million from New England's salary cap.
The three-time Super Bowl champion will make far less in those three seasons than the going rate for star quarterbacks. Brady currently has a four-year, $72 million deal with $48 million guaranteed.
Sports Illustrated first reported the extension.

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That's a great deal and shows Tom just wants to win and will do everything in his power to get the best talent around him.

I'm expecting the Pats to get or retain most of their players now. Vollmer was expected to be a free agent and go elsewhere, but now the Pats got money to retain him. Welker isn't going anywhere. Maybe they are a player for Mike Wallace now?
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That's a great deal and shows Tom just wants to win and will do everything in his power to get the best talent around him.

I'm expecting the Pats to get or retain most of their players now. Vollmer was expected to be a free agent and go elsewhere, but now the Pats got money to retain him. Welker isn't going anywhere. Maybe they are a player for Mike Wallace now?
doubt they can compete with the browns/dolphin bidding war lol
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I don't know about the whole Welker not going anywhere type of thing.



The sports news here is out of the loop like everyone else when it comes to Welker news. Plus the Pats have other holes to fill. If Dennard is going to be in jail then they are out of the one, two, and three CB spots. Unless they move McCourty there but then that leaves them with Chung as a starter at S and that, well, just is not desirable.


They have more money but need to fill key areas first. Plus I believe they don't the absurd amount of extra draft picks as they have had in recent drafts.
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The Raiders have reportedly offered Mike Holmgren a "prominent" leadership role in the organization.
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