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Old 02-18-2013, 01:54 PM   #1
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Default "Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is a hellacious 1-on-1 player" - Skip Bayless

I haven't seen much of MKG. Is this an accurate assessment?

Was MJ's 1-on-1 victory really an accomplishment of note?
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:50 PM   #2
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Default Re: "Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is a hellacious 1-on-1 player" - Skip Bayless

Does skip follow MKG around and watching him play guys 1-on-1?

There's a difference between an iso in a game and playing someone 1 on 1
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:56 PM   #3
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Default Re: "Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is a hellacious 1-on-1 player" - Skip Bayless

You got a 20 year old versus one of the greatest players of all time at age 50. I would take that old man strength versus this kid unless the 20 year old is some phenom like Kobe or a Lebron.
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:57 PM   #4
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You got a 20 year old versus one of the greatest players of all time at age 50. I would take that old man strength versus this kid unless the 20 year old is some phenom like Kobe or a Lebron.


Wasn't he the second overall pick in the draft? He has to be pretty good.
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Old 02-18-2013, 02:58 PM   #5
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Default Re: "Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is a hellacious 1-on-1 player" - Skip Bayless

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Wasn't he the second overall pick in the draft? He has to be pretty good.


Isn't Michael Jordan Michael Jordan?
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:00 PM   #6
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Default Re: "Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is a hellacious 1-on-1 player" - Skip Bayless

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Wasn't he the second overall pick in the draft? He has to be pretty good.

MKG is a rookie hustle player right now with not much of a jumpshot, not really a recipe at the moment for a 1 on 1 playsr
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:02 PM   #7
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Default Re: "Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is a hellacious 1-on-1 player" - Skip Bayless

So what if Michael can beat MKG in 1 v 1?

Skill doesn't deteriorate as much as anyone thinks. But Michael shouldn't try to come back because playing an 82 game schedule will not be kind to his body. Even if he only plays 15 MPG.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:54 PM   #8
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Default Re: "Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is a hellacious 1-on-1 player" - Skip Bayless

Not a good idea to beat the boss, especially one as narcissistic as MJ.
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Old 02-18-2013, 03:58 PM   #9
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Default Re: "Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is a hellacious 1-on-1 player" - Skip Bayless

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Not a good idea to beat the boss, especially one as narcissistic as MJ.

MJ might be narcissistic, but he would respect a player that didn't back down for him more than he would hate to lose to a 20 yr old.
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Not a good idea to beat the boss, especially one as narcissistic as MJ.
This. Especially with a guy like MKG who would have to physically overwhelm him to beat him. Pretty sure there are bench players who could beat 50 year old MJ. Guys like Shannon Brown and Delfino being a couple off the top of my head.
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Default Re: "Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is a hellacious 1-on-1 player" - Skip Bayless

i'm a bobcats fan and i watch a lot of MKG and i can say this is definitely believable. MKG is by no means a talented 1v1 player lol. he's quick, has nice handles and can get to the rim pretty well, but if MJ gives him space and forces MKG to shoot jumpers, old MJ has a pretty good chance. MKG has NO JUMPER whatsoever. i'm not really sure how MJ scored on him though, he's a great defender. but MJ's post moves are pretty amazing so i can see him working the post and using his old man strength to overpower him
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:10 PM   #12
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Default Re: "Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is a hellacious 1-on-1 player" - Skip Bayless

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MJ might be narcissistic, but he would respect a player that didn't back down for him more than he would hate to lose to a 20 yr old.
Same thing I'm thinking.

I think MJ would take it as an insult if MKG took it easy on MJ. Besides, with all the trash talking that'll be involved it would get his competitive juices flowing.

I've seen clips of MKG and the dude is long, tall, athletic with handles. What the modern day Kobe/Bron fan would be raving over and use as an example as to why today's players are better. We've seen that story many times before.

"Today's players are much taller, bigger, stronger, more athletic, MJ would struggle in today's era. MKG is 6'7 with handles and can jump outta the building, he'd MURDER MJ… hahaha!!!"
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:16 PM   #13
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Default Re: "Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is a hellacious 1-on-1 player" - Skip Bayless

The real question is can he beat Brian Scalabrine?
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Old 02-18-2013, 04:19 PM   #14
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Default Re: "Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is a hellacious 1-on-1 player" - Skip Bayless

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i'm a bobcats fan and i watch a lot of MKG and i can say this is definitely believable. MKG is by no means a talented 1v1 player lol. he's quick, has nice handles and can get to the rim pretty well, but if MJ gives him space and forces MKG to shoot jumpers, old MJ has a pretty good chance. MKG has NO JUMPER whatsoever. i'm not really sure how MJ scored on him though, he's a great defender. but MJ's post moves are pretty amazing so i can see him working the post and using his old man strength to overpower him

From what I've read his scouting reports always state that he's a great defender.

And you touched on something that many are overlooking.

Maybe MKG may not have the best jumper, he's still an NBA pro, I'm sure he can hit it in a one on one situation, at least enough to make MJ respect it, specially with his combination of height and athleticism. But how does MJ score on him?

it can't simply be 'old man strength'.

It simply can't be MJ backing him up in the post, and when he does, MJ more than likely doesn't have lift, MKG is tall, long and athletic something more is at play here than just simply being stronger.

What are the excuses when MJ used to beat Gerald Wallace who was an all star, who is one of the league's best defenders and at some point considered a franchise player by some?
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Default Re: "Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is a hellacious 1-on-1 player" - Skip Bayless

1 on 1 is really suited to MJ. He probably still has the best jumper in the game, and he's really good at using it off the triple threat AND from the post.

I think there was a video of him schooling some players maybe five years back. He was just jabstepping and jabstepping and hit jumpshot after jumpshot.

On defense, MKG can't really use much of his athleticism since there's only two ways he can go, left and right. MJ doesn't have to chase him off screens. Hell he probably didn't even have to close out on his jumpshot.
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