Ranking the Batman Movie Franchise

[Money 23]

Originally Posted by Clippersfan86

People that didn't like TDKR are fu**ing nuts . Myth every time I think about it I like it MORE, not less. In fact I saw it a second time and notice subtleties I previously didn't appreciate enough and it made me like the movie more.

Agreed. It definitely gets better with subsequent viewings. I too was disappointed at first, but it's genius and ambition gets better to me with each time I pop it in the dvd player.

Even the supposed "plot holes" are glossed over in dialogue that you have to pay attention to ... now, it does strive for something really grand, and does come off as sloppy or bloated at times but it's well scripted and extremely well acted.

It's not as tight a script as Begins and The Dark Knight, but it is very well done. A quality finish to the trilogy and Nolan's statement on Batman. Alot of emotion in that final act, too. Definitely slept on as a film by haters.

Will rep you when I can.

[Qwyjibo]

Out of the recent live action ones:

1. The Dark Knight - 10/10
2. Batman Begins - 9/10
3. The Dark Knight Rises - 9/10
4. Batman Returns - 7/10
5. Batman - 6/10
6. Batman Forever - 6/10
7. Batman & Robin - 3/10

I did really like Under the Red Hood and Mask of the Phantasm as well. More than any of the Burton/Schumacher ones but not as much the Nolan series.

[Clippersfan86]

Originally Posted by Money 23

Agreed. It definitely gets better with subsequent viewings. I too was disappointed at first, but it's genius and ambition gets better to me with each time I pop it in the dvd player.

Even the supposed "plot holes" are glossed over in dialogue that you have to pay attention to ... now, it does strive for something really grand, and does come off as sloppy or bloated at times but it's well scripted and extremely well acted.

It's not as tight a script as Begins and The Dark Knight, but it is very well done. A quality finish to the trilogy and Nolan's statement on Batman. Alot of emotion in that final act, too. Definitely slept on as a film by haters.

Will rep you when I can.

Honestly maybe because when it comes to movies I'm an emotional guy but I connected with this last Batman movie more than any other one before it. The emotional performance from Michael Caine had me in tears man. I'm fu**ing still mad that Batman got froze out of the Oscars. Michael Caine should have won best supporting actor hands down, shit was a masterpiece.

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[Myth]

Originally Posted by Clippersfan86

People that didn't like TDKR are fu**ing nuts . Myth every time I think about it I like it MORE, not less. In fact I saw it a second time and notice subtleties I previously didn't appreciate enough and it made me like the movie more.

The things that pissed me off ultimately were more memorable than the things I liked. Bane was really the only saving grace for me. It felt like the movie was spitting in the face of the audience to me and assuming we were too stupid to notice the parts that were retarded.

[Myth]

Since we are talking about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQJuGeqdbn4

The clip rips on the movie quite a bit, but in my experience, I've enjoyed the Honest Trailers even when they are about movies I like.

Also, it is worth mentioning that my TDKR rating is a 7.5/10, which is a positive score in my mind. The movie was just extra frustrating because I was expecting to have it be 9+ IMO.

[Money 23]

Originally Posted by Myth

Since we are talking about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQJuGeqdbn4

The clip rips on the movie quite a bit, but in my experience, I've enjoyed the Honest Trailers even when they are about movies I like.

Also, it is worth mentioning that my TDKR rating is a 7.5/10, which is a positive score in my mind. The movie was just extra frustrating because I was expecting to have it be 9+ IMO.

Honest Trailers greatly exaggerates in order to poke fun at ALL films. They nitpick for comedic purposes because that's they SHTICK. You can do it for virtually any movie. Cinematic coincidences, plot contrivances, plot holes ... all can be greatly exaggerated.

Some of their issues are down right wrong. Don't have the time to go through it all, but I've already seen it.

Rises isn't as good as TDK, that's it's only issue. People need to get over it. Going in with the expectations of it being better were setting up the film for ultimate failure. People spent 4 years after TDK building up their own movie in their heads.

People thought the Riddler, Johnny Depp, Leonardo DiCaprio, Dr. Strange, the Penguin ... they thought the movie would again blow up the mythos balloon.

But instead, Nolan gave a conclusion set almost ten years after the events of TDK with a mentally ill Wayne, that basically book ended and concluded the un-finished events in regards to the League of Shadows and the father / son legacy issues of Batman Begins, and symbolism / legend themes.

Not everything was conventional, it wasn't exactly what was expected. No one even thought Bane would be the villain. It had great ambition. And even though it doesn't reach the near perfect-ness of what is basically a GENERATIONAL defining film in The Dark Knight, it was still VERY VERY good.