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Old 02-12-2013, 04:36 AM   #16
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Default Re: melo is finally going to win his first scoring champ this season

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Durant 57 eFG%=1.14 points per 2 point shot
Kobe 50.7 eFG%=1.014 points per 2 point shot
Kobe 84.3 FT%=.843 points per FTA
Melo 83.3 FT%=.833 points per FTA
Durant averages 9.2 FTA
Melo averages 22.1 FGA

Here are there averages if each player attempted 22.1 FGA and 9.3 FTA

Durant 33.574
Melo 30.5827
Kobe 30.2815

Yes, clearly. FT's are why Durant is so far ahead.

How f*cking thick can you be.
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:36 AM   #17
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Go check the game logs. Melo did the same thing for the first 2 months.


Durant has never carried a team by himself in his life. His teams were awful before Westbrook. Melo carried his team to the playoffs in his rookie year.

You do realize that Durant just lost a top 10 player in the league and his team got even better because he has the ball in his hands more, right? Westbrook is playing worse than last year, yet the Thunder are an even better team.

Have you seen the starting unit during Durant's rookie year?

Earl Watson
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Jeff Green
Chris Wilcox
Kurt Thomas(36 years old)

You freaking kidding bro?
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:38 AM   #18
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Default Re: melo is finally going to win his first scoring champ this season

Not gonna happen. Will be Durant's.

I think if the Knicks had their way, they'd play more like they did very early in the season with Carmelo averaging around the 25-27ppg mark, and accepting doubles to get shooters more looks (if they miss them however, there will continue to be one on one play). When the injuries started piling up, and the one on one play increased (especially with Felton out) that he put up like 30 a night. Not only that, but expect Amare to be more involved in the offense, and he should be. Felton's pick and roll should help involve more players also.

OKC on the other hand are a very talented team that, has Westbrook at pg, and Durant as it's secondary playmaker. Westbrook is a one on one player, and Durant has to be for the most part also. Them being aggressive and making timely passes is what makes their teammates better.

In fact, if Carmelo wins the scoring title, it may be a bad thing for the Knicks...unless he just gets much more efficient.
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How f*cking thick can you be.

Durant shoots 6% higher on 2 point FG's, 2% higher on 3 point FG's, and 7% higher on FT's. Please tell me how Carmelo is a better scorer. I can't WAIT to hear it.

Oh and please do bring in a "post up game". Durant is the most efficient post scorer in the league this year and has more attempts on postups than Melo.
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Old 02-12-2013, 04:45 AM   #20
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The only reason it's remotely close is refs gift Durant with free throws.
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Most protected guy in the league. And it's actually not even close.
You can't even breathe close to him without being called for a foul
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Most protected guy in the league. And it's actually not even close.
You can't even breathe close to him without being called for a foul

You do realize Durant, at age 20 in his 2nd season, was more efficient scoring the basketball than Carmelo has ever been, right?

I'm sure the refs were protecting a 20 year old kid on a 20 win team in fvcking Oklahoma more than a 29 year old "superstar" playing in the countries biggest market which has been defunct for decades.
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Old 02-12-2013, 08:38 AM   #22
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Default Re: melo is finally going to win his first scoring champ this season

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Durant 57 eFG%=1.14 points per 2 point shot
Kobe 50.7 eFG%=1.014 points per 2 point shot
Kobe 84.3 FT%=.843 points per FTA
Melo 83.3 FT%=.833 points per FTA
Durant averages 9.2 FTA
Melo averages 22.1 FGA

Here are there averages if each player attempted 22.1 FGA and 9.3 FTA

Durant 33.574
Melo 30.5827
Kobe 30.2815

Yes, clearly. FT's are why Durant is so far ahead.

You really think that's how it works? And it's funny how annoyed you are that Melo might lead the league in scoring. It won't change anyone's opinion anyway. Almost everyone considers Durant the best scorer because he is.

With that being said, I'd really like to see what would happen if they got the same treatment from the refs. Durant gets to the line at a comical rate. He's an unbelievable scorer, and almost impossible to guard, but he becomes impossible to guard because if you breath on him it's a foul. If he twists his body a little near the rim, it's a foul if it's contested. Or if someone is close to him and challenges his shot, there's almost always a foul call, even if it's a jumper.

I expect a good amount of FTA because he's such a great shooter with an incredible length making his jumper impossible to challenge, he handles the ball well for a 6'10" player and he's a good finisher, but this is ridiculous.

Durant- 1.95 FGA for every FTA
Lebron- 2.75 FGA for every FTA
Kobe- 2.84 FGA for every FTA
Melo- 2.98 FGA for every FTA

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Old 02-12-2013, 08:39 AM   #23
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should put an asterisk because the only reason hes winning is since kobe decided to become magic johnson type distributor and dwight started crying
You must have missed the game where Melo shitted so hard on Kobe he had to fake an back injury at halftime. First and only time during the season he had "back problems"
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Default Re: melo is finally going to win his first scoring champ this season

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Durant 57 eFG%=1.14 points per 2 point shot
Kobe 50.7 eFG%=1.014 points per 2 point shot
Kobe 84.3 FT%=.843 points per FTA
Melo 83.3 FT%=.833 points per FTA
Durant averages 9.2 FTA
Melo averages 22.1 FGA

Here are there averages if each player attempted 22.1 FGA and 9.3 FTA

Durant 33.574
Melo 30.5827
Kobe 30.2815

Yes, clearly. FT's are why Durant is so far ahead.
wtf is this?
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wtf is this?

He doesn't even realize that if the rate Durant got to the line at dropped that much, his FG% wouldn't be the same either. Not to mention making assumptions such as efficiency remaining the same with more shots is ridiculous. Never mind these players playing in different offenses with different casts.
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Default Re: melo is finally going to win his first scoring champ this season

Honestly i don't think Melo can pull it. Woodson already said he is going to trust the bench more, translation Melo is going to see less minutes, and he already plays less minutes than Durant.

And i think Woodson is on the money, there's too much Melo going on now, Knicks need to get back to what they where doing start of the season.
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Honestly i don't think Melo can pull it. Woodson already said he is going to trust the bench more, translation Melo is going to see less minutes, and he already plays less minutes than Durant.

And i think Woodson is on the money, there's too much Melo going on now, Knicks need to get back to what they where doing start of the season.

Yeah, the offense has relied on Melo too much, but it's been out of necessity because he's been the only consistent scorer in the line up all year. Hopefully Amare will stay healthy and continue providing scoring. Jr can score, but he's been inconsistent after a great start and Felton missed a month. Those are the guys who can get their own offense and only Jr has been healthy all year so it'll be interesting.

But other than November when Melo averaged 26, he's been a 30+ ppg scorer since(33 ppg in December, 30 in January and 28 in six games this month) so I'm not sure his scoring will drop that much. Especially since I expect him to be more efficient than he was in January because when Felton was out he had to carry a ridiculous load not only scoring a ton, but handling the ball far more than he had to prior to that which is what led to his shooting slump, imo.

With this team healthy, Melo can focus more on scoring and making plays when he's doubled which is definitely the best role for him.
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Default Re: melo is finally going to win his first scoring champ this season

LeBron has impressed as a scorer this season. He's tield with carmelo with the most FGs per game, averaging less free throws than everone in the top 5, and the most efficient scorer as well with so many points.
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What the hell does him carrying his teams have anything to do with the scoring title? If anything, that's further disappointment. If he was the only real option on his teams, why couldn't he get a scoring title? So either he didn't have teammates that bad or he just sucked at scoring by himself.

The fact Durant has Westbrook is even more amazing how he won 3 straight scoring titles, Westbrook usually takes more shots than Durant and handles the ball majority of the time. Durant manages to do his scoring off-the ball or in the flow. Melo does his by pounding the ball, his usage rate is #1 in the league. Guess who is #2? Russel Westbrook.

Durant is #9, so he scores as much as Melo while touching the ball less and having #2 guy in usagerate on his team.

You have no idea what usage rate is

Admit it.

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