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Old 03-03-2013, 10:26 PM   #136
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I'm referring to young people that read a Biology text book in high school or college, take it as 'gospel' then refer to themselves as free thinking former theists.

But if they read the bible and took it as gospel then that is ok?
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Old 03-03-2013, 10:32 PM   #137
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Oh this thread again. Same posters, same arguments, same bullshit. Rinse and repeat.

Classic ISH.
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Old 03-03-2013, 10:34 PM   #138
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Oh this thread again. Same posters, same arguments, same bullshit. Rinse and repeat.

Classic ISH.

And this thread wouldn't be complete without this post! Thanks for being as derivative as the rest of us.
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Old 03-03-2013, 10:35 PM   #139
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And this thread wouldn't be complete without this post! Thanks for being as derivative as the rest of us.

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Old 03-03-2013, 10:38 PM   #140
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But if they read the bible and took it as gospel then that is ok?

If they read it and find it to be false then no, it's not ok.

If they read it and find it to be true then it's ok.

What I am referring to are people that are in their teens and early 20's that think they know the truth of the universe and aren't open to spirituality, let alone God.
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Old 03-04-2013, 02:19 AM   #141
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If they read it and find it to be false then no, it's not ok.

If they read it and find it to be true then it's ok.

What I am referring to are people that are in their teens and early 20's that think they know the truth of the universe and aren't open to spirituality, let alone God.

So if they read the bible and conclude that it is nonsense then that is unacceptable?
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:35 AM   #142
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What's the point in arguing? You aren't convincing anyone. That whole 'winner' shit is part of the problem. They take the whole argument like its a contest and come off as big losers. It is impossible to 'win' against a religious person

There are various reasons people argue even if they know they won't convince the other side. One of the reasons I do it is because I want to see various points of view and different sides to things. If we all just sit back, say "agree to disagree" at the beginning and don't really discuss anything, then what's the point?
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God the original G meme is hilarious.

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Default Re: Atheism vs. Theism

I do think it's interesting that most message boards will have threads of Atheists VS Theists as opposed to Islam VS Christianity VS Buddhism VS Judaism.

I suppose part of this has to do with the US demographic having access to computers, but these threads would be vastly different if you had actual other religions chiming in.

Atheism vs. Theism is actually just Atheism vs. Christianity on here. Would the Christians on this site have a problem with Atheists rejecting Judaism for the same exact reason they reject Christianity, or would they tell them that their reasoning for theism rejection is inappropriate for all religions?
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All Atheists generalize the behaviour and beliefs of religious people.
Most theists obfuscate and equivocate to hide the contradictory nature of their moronic beliefs.

edit: oh yes, and why are theists counted as a united group when they spend more time reviling and killing each other than they do atheists?

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Regardless of when it was written, it was written by Isaac Newton.

You should read up on him. He has a Wikipedia page.
Isaac Newton was a superstitious person living in an age of superstition. He also believed in the power of alchemy, do you believe that too?

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Old 03-04-2013, 04:26 PM   #149
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I do think it's interesting that most message boards will have threads of Atheists VS Theists as opposed to Islam VS Christianity VS Buddhism VS Judaism.

I suppose part of this has to do with the US demographic having access to computers, but these threads would be vastly different if you had actual other religions chiming in.

Atheism vs. Theism is actually just Atheism vs. Christianity on here. Would the Christians on this site have a problem with Atheists rejecting Judaism for the same exact reason they reject Christianity, or would they tell them that their reasoning for theism rejection is inappropriate for all religions?

I think it's Atheism versus Theism because it's far, far easier to come up with legitimate arguments for simply "a god could exist" than it is to argue for all the inane, nonsensical, contradicting ramblings in any of the particular holy books or particular religious doctrines.

Once you get down to the nitty gritty origins of any religion, whether you take Christianity or Islam or Judaism or Buddhism of whatever, it becomes pretty hard to defend the true merit and legitimacy of it.
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I think it's Atheism versus Theism because it's far, far easier to come up with legitimate arguments for simply "a god could exist" than it is to argue for all the inane, nonsensical, contradicting ramblings in any of the particular holy books or particular religious doctrines.

Once you get down to the nitty gritty origins of any religion, whether you take Christianity or Islam or Judaism or Buddhism of whatever, it becomes pretty hard to defend the true merit and legitimacy of it.
But in many cases that would be deism not theism, and deists would have more cause to ally with ateists than theists. It's that many people don't even know what their own position is in regard to God - which is why they're often vague and ambiguous. Still, there's a huge jump from believing in the need for a Creator, to thinking that this Creator has you in mind/talks to you/watches you etc.
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