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Old 02-13-2013, 07:11 PM   #151
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What are you trying to argue?

Barajas checked both his children for signs of life and investigated the crash scene under suspicion of drunk driving before executing this man?
the fact that maybe he thought they were both dead?

and yes, why are we assuming otherwise?
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the fact that maybe he thought they were both dead?

and yes, why are we assuming otherwise?
one of his sons was flown to the hospital by helicopter because he was alive

and intrinsic pointed out this:

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the way I pictured it is that they were in the middle of the road pushing a car in the dark because no gas...the 20 year old came up from behind them and smashed into them...one son died right away, the other still showing signs of life...911 is called by Barajas, who decided to walk to his home and get his gun while his oldest son is still alive on the street, and then shoot the 20 year old in the head.
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Old 02-13-2013, 11:09 PM   #153
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yeah, that is what drunk driving is...a careless mistake

just like texting while driving...which is getting death numbers on similar levels

It's beyond careless. That's completely trivializing the serious nature of drunk driving. You're putting everyone else on the road in danger when you make that decision. There is absolutely no excusing it, you can't rationalize this bullshit behavior. The guy was a piece of trash for drunk driving and it bit him in the ass.
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texting on the other hand, is inexcusable...

As is drunk driving, completely unacceptable under any circumstances.
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exactly, they are both careless and should be treated in similar fashion...and both have been done at least once by many over the age of 25...just about all of them not undeserving of the death penalty for being careless

however a driver decides to text while sober, a drunk driver decides it's a good idea to drive while drunk...the same night he thought it would be a good idea dance shirtless at the club and then fist fight his best friend...yes measures can be taken to prevent drunk driving, but at the age of 20 (the age of the driver here) most don't think that far ahead, or care...all they care about is the party.

I'm not trying to belittle the seriousness of it...it's as serious as a heart attack, multiple heart attacks...I am just being real about it...this was some kid that just got done drinking with his buddies and made a stupid mistake that cost 2 kids their lives, he is one of many and none of these kids deserve to be shot in the head.
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let me say his last thing before hitting the sack...as someone who has been heavily affected by alcohol in a wrong way and knows a great deal about events like this...(although this one in particular is rare)

just about everyone who has killed someone being the drunk driver has their life ruined over it...even if they are 17, it was their first offense, whatever...it ruins their life...they still have to spend years in prison, have a federal offense on their record that keeps them from having a decent job when they get out, and the extreme guilt of death on thier hands to live with which causes deep depression for most. Had this 20 year old not been shot in the head, his life would have still been a mess over this with likely no happy ending...it would have dominated his life's story.
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one of his sons was flown to the hospital by helicopter because he was alive

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the way I pictured it is that they were in the middle of the road pushing a car in the dark because no gas...the 20 year old came up from behind them and smashed into them...one son died right away, the other still showing signs of life...911 is called by Barajas, who decided to walk to his home and get his gun while his oldest son is still alive on the street, and then shoot the 20 year old in the head.
911 would have been called either way.

Anyways 1 dying would have been enough to kill either way.

I cant believe we are still arguing this.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:58 AM   #159
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just about everyone who has killed someone being the drunk driver has their life ruined over it...even if they are 17, it was their first offense, whatever...it ruins their life...they still have to spend years in prison, have a federal offense on their record that keeps them from having a decent job when they get out, and the extreme guilt of death on thier hands to live with which causes deep depression for most. Had this 20 year old not been shot in the head, his life would have still been a mess over this with likely no happy ending...it would have dominated his life's story.

If someone is a complete moron and puts themselves in a dangerous situation where they are more than likely to fail they deserve the worst possible outcome. In an ideal world only the idiot drunk driver would die from any accident and the innocent party survives. Think of all the lifes the drunk idiot ruins yet after prison can get out and life a fairly normal life (im pretty sure in Australia they can get social security) with some guilt. Big deal I rather be that than the guy who dies. The problem is there is a surplus of complete idiots and wankers that do these things because most are cowards with low self esteem who have to go out get drugged up /drunk to feel good about themselves than get into a car where in most cases in a crash the innocent person dies and they somehow live.

Good job by that dad for what he did, its as close to justice as hes going to get, there is seriously to much cowardly crap that goes on in this world and a lot of it is done by drunken/drugged up losers who have nothing better to do than destory themselves and others rather than trying to build something decent.
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It's amazing the passion that some people defend a drunk driver killing two kids. It was a "careless" mistake.

Now apparently the fact that one kid was on his way to the hospital it's incredibly relevant and important, the other one laying dead it's of no importance and it's irrelevant. And apparently these "people" are not only a fathers but a "good" fathers! lol

"Hey look you killed my son while driving drunk, but that's ok, the other one is going to the hospital, wanna go for drink? Now if you killed them both, man you would be in trouble!"

Seriously how retarded can you be?


I wonder if the biggest retard on this thread, when he is pulled over, he shows a powerpoint presentation to the cops, about how texting kills more, and how that makes it ok to drive drunk and kill people.


Know what, there was two careless mistakes, not just one, the guy saw a rabbit on the side of the road, that was attracted by the noise and he went grab a gun to kill him so that he could present it to his grieving wife as a gift, but he shot the driver instead, it was dark and shit... what a "careless mistake"


I love how this ******* have all figure it out since the first minute, amazes me how he didn't even said that somewhow he was forced to drink and forced to drive!

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just about everyone who has killed someone being the drunk driver has their life ruined over it...even if they are 17, it was their first offense, whatever...it ruins their life...they still have to spend years in prison, have a federal offense on their record that keeps them from having a decent job when they get out, and the extreme guilt of death on thier hands to live with which causes deep depression for most. Had this 20 year old not been shot in the head, his life would have still been a mess over this with likely no happy ending...it would have dominated his life's story.
Ohhh... poor fellow!! You know what, thank god he is dead, imagine what he would have gone through if he was still alive!



I'm speechless, it was not enough to try to pass this driver as a saint, you had to try pass all drunk drivers as victims, how big of a douchebag someone has to be? Seriously?

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I'm still confused as to how anyone sees me as actually defending drunk driving...wtf

It's as serious as a heart attack...read past posts

Texting was brought up in comparison because for some reason most wouldn't murder a texter but they are the same

/Broken record...drunk driving is bad...broken record...drunk driving is bad



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I guess to some of you one saying "he didn't deserve to be shot" equates to me saying drunk drivers shouldn't be punished

I agree with what the law is RIGHT NOW...like I said earlier...I am a fan of the 3 strike method


My views on this are the same as the judges...some of your views are that drunks should be shot, which is ridiculous
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I guess to some of you one saying "he didn't deserve to be shot" equates to me saying drunk drivers shouldn't be punished

I agree with what the law is RIGHT NOW...like I said earlier...I am a fan of the 3 strike method


My views on this are the same as the judges...some of your views are that drunks should be shot, which is ridiculous

Drunks that kill innocent people should be shot, normal drunks who cause problems should be badly punished/beaten so they don't do it again. Drunks who don't cause problems and don't drive cars are fine since they are only hurting there own health.
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Drunk driving and even texting while driving are not careless mistakes. A careless mistake is locking your keys in the car or forgetting to turn of the water. The difference?

It is a CHOICE TO DRIVE DRUNK, it is not a careless mistake it is an EGREGIOUS ERROR in judgement. And you sure as hell deserve to be shot in the face if you drive drunk and kill someone.


p.tiddy you are the one who needs to learn reading comprehension as well as the english language. Casually talking about drunk driving in passing like you are is whats causing everyones reaction to you. Stop acting like a jackass attention troll and pretending you are not.
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okay andre, I strongly disagree that drunks who kill people should be shot

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