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Old 02-14-2013, 07:24 PM   #46
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I didn't get vaccinated. My sister did and she got sick for 2 days, but I feel terrible for a week now. It ****ing sucks.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:57 PM   #47
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The flu is rough man I had it last week. Woke up 3 am one night and puked pretty much non-stop for a day. The worst part was I couldn't even drink a glass of water without throwing up. So thirsty and all I could do was take a sip of water every 5 mins lol.
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:11 AM   #48
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- Your question was poorly asked....you might comprehend your question...

- but your attempt to clearly represent what you were thinking failed...

- again....nothing to debate...vaccines are pointless in our Lives today for 99% of Americans.

- Just as most prescription drugs...teh Cure is far more dangerous then the Problem.
It was a rhetorical question.
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Old 02-22-2013, 01:10 PM   #49
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the Flu virus(es) change every year and the vaccine for the flu changes with it each year...some years the vaccine is much more effective than others, supposedly the vaccine that was given out this year was extremely effective.

I know a woman that got the vaccine years ago and still got the flu, and because of that she won't get the vaccine any more...but she doesn't understand that each year is different case.


I had both flu and whooping cough vaccines this year

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ATLANTA (AP) It turns out this year's flu shot is doing a startlingly dismal job of protecting older people, the most vulnerable age group.
The vaccine is proving only 9 percent effective in those 65 and older against the harsh strain of the flu that is predominant this season, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Thursday.

Health officials are baffled as to why this is so. But the findings help explain why so many older people have been hospitalized with the flu this year.

Despite the findings, the CDC stood by its recommendation that everyone over 6 months get flu shots, the elderly included, because some protection is better than none, and because those who are vaccinated and still get sick may suffer less severe symptoms.

"Year in and year out, the vaccine is the best protection we have," said CDC flu expert Dr. Joseph Bresee.

Overall, across the age groups studied, the vaccine's effectiveness was found to be a moderate 56 percent, which means those who got a shot have a 56 percent lower chance of winding up at the doctor with the flu. That is somewhat worse than what has been seen in other years.

For those 65 and older, the vaccine was only 27 percent effective against the three strains it is designed to protect against, the worst level in about a decade. It did a particularly poor job against the tough strain that is causing more than three-quarters of the illnesses this year.

It is well known that flu vaccine tends to protect younger people better than older ones. Elderly people have weaker immune systems that don't respond as well to flu shots, and they are more vulnerable to the illness and its complications, including pneumonia.

But health officials said they don't know why this year's vaccine did so poorly in that age group.

One theory, as yet unproven, is that older people's immune systems were accustomed to strains from the last two years and had more trouble switching gears to handle this year's different, harsh strain.

The preliminary data for senior citizens is less than definitive. It is based on fewer than 300 people scattered among five states.

But it will no doubt surprise many people that the effectiveness is that low, said Michael Osterholm, a University of Minnesota infectious-disease expert who has tried to draw attention to the need for a more effective flu vaccine.

Among infectious diseases, flu is considered one of the nation's leading killers. On average, about 24,000 Americans die each flu season, according to the CDC.

This flu season started in early December, a month earlier than usual, and peaked by the end of year. Hospitalization rates for people 65 and older have been some of the highest in a decade, at 146 per 100,000 people.

Flu viruses tend to mutate more quickly than others, so a new vaccine is formulated each year to target the strains expected to be the major threats. CDC officials have said that in formulating this year's vaccine, scientists accurately anticipated the strains that are circulating this season.

Because of the guesswork involved, scientists tend to set a lower bar for flu vaccine. While childhood vaccines against diseases like measles are expected to be 90 or 95 percent effective, a flu vaccine that's 60 to 70 percent effective in the U.S. is considered pretty good. By that standard, this year's vaccine is OK.

For senior citizens, a flu vaccine is considered pretty good if it's in the 30 to 40 percent range, said Dr. Arnold Monto, a University of Michigan flu expert.

A high-dose version of the flu shot was recently made available for those 65 and older, but the new study was too small to show whether that has made a difference.

The CDC estimates are based on about 2,700 people who got sick in December and January. The researchers traced back to see who had gotten shots and who hadn't. An earlier, smaller study put the vaccine's overall effectiveness at 62 percent, but other factors that might have influenced that figure weren't taken into account.

The CDC's Bresee said there is a danger in providing preliminary results because it may result in people doubting or skipping flu shots. But the figures were released to warn older people who got shots that they may still get sick and shouldn't ignore any serious flu-like symptoms, he said.



If you are 65 and older...by all means....get Vaccinated...

If you are a Kid...or healthy adult...please don't support them...you do not need to get Vaccinated.
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:40 PM   #50
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here is how vaccines work.

a weakened form of the disease-causing microorganism is injected into your body. your body reacts by producing antibodies to destroy said organism. your body remembers this organism and the next time it enters the body, your body easily recognizes it, and destroys it faster.

that's why vaccinations are usually followed by mild fever. that's the microorganism making your body react. your body's reaction is to heat up (because heat kills microorganisms, hence the body's natural reaction to illnesses is fever. if you have fever, your body is trying to expel something from your system) and produce antibodies.

now, antibodies do the cleaning up. organisms that don't die from the heat produced by your fever are destroyed by antibodies. they are efficient, and they are fkng killers. if they've been deployed once to fight a certain microorganism, the next time the same microorganism comes, these antibodies become better at destroying these microorganisms. hence the rationale for vaccination.

vaccinations don't prevent the illness. but it prevents the illness from killing you, because now your body is more prepared to fight the disease. that's why vaccinated ppl get sick, but suffer only the mild form of the disease.

like many things, there are exceptions and outliers. vaccines don't work as well depending on a number of factors. one of these is if the patient has a problem with their immune system. if antibodies are not being produced properly, the vaccine will have no effect. some individuals also do not react correctly to the vaccine, and does not produce the antibodies when the vaccine is introduced.

vaccine has been responsible for the extinction of smallpox. other diseases that have now been brought to near extinction are: rubella, polio, measles, mumps, chickenpox, and typhoid.

flu is more difficult to tamp down because the flu virus mutates more quickly. that's why vaccinations are yearly. new strains develop each year. and because there are stupid ppl like AlphoWolf that refuses vaccinations, the virus spreads without being killed.

it stands to reason that if everyone was vaccinated, no matter where that fkng virus goes, it will be killed. but because there are a lot of AlphaWolves that provide shelter to these viruses, the virus spreads, and continues to grow and mutate much more quickly than the vaccine can catch up.

it is an arms race, and the more stupid ppl like AlphaWolf there are, the more these fkng illnesses will not be killed to extinction.

think of viruses and bacteria as people. let's say they're black people. now if all countries refuse entry to all blacks, and killed all black ppl on sight, it stands to reason they'd soon be extinct - correct?

but if even just one tiny ass country accept blacks, they'd continue reproducing until that one tiny country is bombed to hell.

what say you we kill all AlphaWolves?

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Old 02-22-2013, 04:59 PM   #51
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here is how vaccines work.

a weakened form of the disease-causing microorganism is injected into your body. your body reacts by producing antibodies to destroy said organism. your body remembers this organism and the next time it enters the body, your body easily recognizes it, and destroys it faster.

that's why vaccinations are usually followed by mild fever. that's the microorganism making your body react. your body's reaction is to heat up (because heat kills microorganisms, hence the body's natural reaction to illnesses is fever. if you have fever, your body is trying to expel something from your system) and produce antibodies.

now, antibodies do the cleaning up. organisms that don't die from the heat produced by your fever are destroyed by antibodies. they are efficient, and they are fkng killers. if they've been deployed once to fight a certain microorganism, the next time the same microorganism comes, these antibodies become better at destroying these microorganisms. hence the rationale for vaccination.

vaccinations don't prevent the illness. but it prevents the illness from killing you, because now your body is more prepared to fight the disease. that's why vaccinated ppl get sick, but suffer only the mild form of the disease.

like many things, there are exceptions and outliers. vaccines don't work as well depending on a number of factors. one of these is if the patient has a problem with their immune system. if antibodies are not being produced properly, the vaccine will have no effect. some individuals also do not react correctly to the vaccine, and does not produce the antibodies when the vaccine is introduced.

vaccine has been responsible for the extinction of smallpox. other diseases that have now been brought to near extinction are: rubella, polio, measles, mumps, chickenpox, and typhoid.

flu is more difficult to tamp down because the flu virus mutates more quickly. that's why vaccinations are yearly. new strains develop each year. and because there are stupid ppl like AlphoWolf that refuses vaccinations, the virus spreads without being killed.

it stands to reason that if everyone was vaccinated, no matter where that fkng virus goes, it will be killed. but because there are a lot of AlphaWolves that provide shelter to these viruses, the virus spreads, and continues to grow and mutate much more quickly than the vaccine can catch up.

it is an arms race, and the more stupid ppl like AlphaWolf there are, the more these fkng illnesses will not be killed to extinction.

think of viruses and bacteria as people. let's say they're black people. now if all countries refuse entry to all blacks, and killed all black ppl on sight, it stands to reason they'd soon be extinct - correct?

but if even just one tiny ass country accept blacks, they'd continue reproducing until that one tiny country is bombed to hell.

what say you we kill all AlphaWolves?




Vaccines are responsible?.....so how is it that small pox still exists today if Vaccines eliminated it?

answer: the pharmaceutical industry would argue that this was because not every person has been vaccinated and that if they had, then this disease would no longer exist. However, this simply is untrue because VACCINATED people are still getting the infection?


Measles:FACT Deaths from Measles were virtually wiped out in every <developed country before the vaccine was even used.

Vaccinated children still get measles. Deaths and hospitalisations have been recorded for 120 years.

.Using the Health Department statistics on vaccinating 540,000 children, would result in:

Up to 81,000 cases of rash and fever.

Up to 5,400 cases of parotid (mumps) swelling

Up to 216 cases of febrile seizures

Up to 18 cases of thrombocytopenia (red-blood cell destruction)

Up to cases of chronic thrombocytopenia.

Up to 5 cases of Aseptic Meningitis.

Up to 1 case of Central Nervous system damage.

Up to 15,420 cases of transient joint arthralgia some of these becoming chronic. (pg 95, H. Dept Handbook)

Germany does not routinely use the measles vaccine because their reporting system found 1 per 2,500 vaccinees had a neurological complication, and 1 per 17,500 vaccinees had abortive encephalopathy. (FDA Technical Report, 1980)
The Germans considered the risks too high in light of the fact that deaths and disease severity had decreased without any reference to a vaccine. *



Polio-
"Polio has not been eradicated by vaccination, it is lurking behind a redefinition and new diagnostic names like viral or aseptic meningitis.......According to one of the 1997 issues of the MMWR, there are some 30,000 to 50,000 cases of viral meningitis per year in the United States alone. That's where all those 30,000 - 50,000 cases of polio disappeared after the introduction of mass "vaccination"

The doctors , assuming the vaccination was flawless, saw patients who appeared to have polio and had been vaccinated and thought it couldnt have possibly been polio ! And therefor the diagnosis was not polio

simply redifined.....Viral or aseptic meningitis, Guillaine Barre Syndrome (GBS), Chinese Paralytic syndrome, CHRONIC FATIGUE SYNDROME, epidemic cholera, cholera morbus, spinal meningitis, spinal apoplexy, inhibitory palsy, intermittent fever, famine fever, worm fever, bilious remittent fever, ergotism, ME, post-polio syndrome, acute flaccid paralysis Synonyms for GBS]

There has also been similarity drawn to pellagra, beriberi, and other deficiency diseases.

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Between 1955 and 1963 at least 30 million doses of polio vaccination were contaminated with SV40 a monkey virus that has been linked to several times of cancer including brain and mesothelioma

In the 19th and early 20th centuries, a lot of people lived in poverty without proper food, housing or sanitation. This meant that larger numbers of people died at those times from infectious diseases. The same is true in war times.

We no longer die in such great numbers because of the marvellous invention of the indoor flushing toilet, adequate food for everyone (for the first time in history), heating, decent housing and contraception

that's the real reason people are healthier and death from sickness'es dropped.....not Vaccines.












PS: think about what you just said....." Kill all the Alpha's"...

My immune sytem has no Thymerisol/mercury/Virus's from vaccines that don't work....

My kids didn't get toxics forced/injected upon them when they were babies....If they get sick, there immune sytem will be even stronger.....( we are supposed to get sick in child hood, it makes are immune sytem stronger as we age and releases dangerous Toxins and prepares us for life)


B1tch we are the Mutated / stronger Virus!!!.....we are not the weak sheep getting injected with toxic ....Think people!....


Howl wit a wolf...AROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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