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Old 02-14-2013, 07:41 PM   #16
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Default Re: SI's Top 10 Dunk Contest Dunks

F*ck, Brent Barry in 1996 was awesome. Dude kept his warm up jersey on, his free throw line dunk was amazing.

Darvin Ham was ripped off big time in 1997.


Dwight Howard blows, especially the non-dunk Superman cape shit.

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Old 02-14-2013, 08:26 PM   #17
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Whole list sucks, but "Superman" >> VC 360? Come on now.


Also, this has been mentioned, but J-Rich off-glass between the legs needs to be on the list. Shit, I might even argue that it could be #1.
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:35 PM   #18
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Sorry, purists: Don’t even start with the “it wasn’t really a dunk” garbage. Loosen your standards for five seconds and enjoy one of the most jaw-dropping feats of flight you will ever see. As corny as the cape sounds in theory, it helped make this dunk that much more memorable.

People still acting like he did it on purpose. It's one thing to do that in a game, when you're getting fouled... but THE MAN DIDN'T JUMP FAR ENOUGH.
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Damn, Sports Illustrated needs their eyes re-examined. All of these lists are garbage. VC and J-Rich are underrated, while Blake Griffin and Dwight Howard are getting overrated!
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:36 PM   #20
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2005 Dunk comp was great!

J.R Behind the back
Amare with the Between the legs reverse and the Steve Nash 'header' assist 360 thing.
Then Josh smith with the windmill over K-Mart.
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Old 02-14-2013, 08:38 PM   #21
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well i guess depends how do you define all time great... if its about originality then yeah most of the dunks on that list are original... as in how tough is it to make them... then absolutely not, 7 or 8 of them can be done by pretty much any above average dunker right now, while the same cant be said for that griffin dunk...
jordan, wilkins, drj, carter, jrich... those were the real dunks... no gimmicks
I think originality has to play at least a little bit of a role when ranking dunk contest dunks. Of course, style and difficulty must also play big parts. The reasoning behind the importance of originality is in part to account for how the dunk was initially received when it was first completed.

For instance, if a player emulated Vince Carter's honey dip this year exactly as he did it, how might it be received? I feel like we'd peer at one another thinking, "That's it?" However, at the time, when we had not even fathomed such a slam in our imaginations, it was mind-blowing to witness (remember how the crowd didn't really cheer until they watched the replay to confirm their suspicions of what'd just happened?) It was a spectacular dunk and a spectacular moment.

On the flip side, I've never been a huge fan of Dee Brown's no-look dunk. I feel like "the moment" may have provided a little too much propulsion to his legend - pumping up his shoes and whatnot.

All that said, I disagree that any above average dunker can complete every dunk on that list. I also disagree with the notion that the majority of dunks on that list are easier to truly replicate than Blake Griffin's final 360 product. It was a difficult dunk, and it'd provide a problem to small guards and two-foot dunkers who cannot palm a ball or jump off one foot (Francis, Richardson, Wilkins) but it didn't strike me as a dunk residing on a different difficulty plane than the slams mentioned.

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J Rich's bounce, between the legs, reverse is #1. That is a preposterously difficult and unique dunk. Exactly what the dunk contest is about
I respectfully disagree. I personally believe dunking the ball between-the-legs after throwing it off the backboard would be much more difficult than a self-alley off the bounce. Lobbing and bouncing the rock tends to provide players with a little more time to prepare, especially when it's a self-pass (as opposed to a teammate pass). Also, not having the ball in one's hands for such an extended period of time allows for the freedom of approaching, planting, and leaping exactly when you want.

On a backboard toss, the process is pretty much in motion as the toss is happening. The ball's not floating in its dunk zone as long and it's pretty much an insane bang-bang play to be able to make the toss then still be able to throw it between the legs on the catch.

Also, to be a complete stickler, I thought Richardson's bounce between-the-legs was a little ugly. And, when discussing the greatest dunk contest dunks of all-time (particularly when considering one slam for the top spot) I think those dunks better appear just about perfect. In this case, J-Rich's dunk was outstanding, but it also looked a little awkward, lacked in power, and did not go down cleanly.

In contrast, I found Vince Carter's cuffed, clockwise 360 windmill to be just about as perfect as a dunk can get. I don't know if that makes it number one on the list but in all the areas I'd nick Richardson's bounce dunk, Carter's slam excels. In fact, in those same areas, Richardson's backboard slam excels (although I guess it could have gone down slightly stronger).

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Old 02-14-2013, 08:54 PM   #22
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I don't think anyone has mentioned Iguodala in '06 yet. A couple of his dunks probably deserve consideration. That one where Iverson bounced it off the back of the glass, and then the self-alley behind-the-back. From a degree of difficulty standpoint, those are tough to beat.
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I don't think anyone has mentioned Iguodala in '06 yet. A couple of his dunks probably deserve consideration. That one where Iverson bounced it off the back of the glass, and then the self-alley behind-the-back. From a degree of difficulty standpoint, those are tough to beat.

oh yeah. Iggy was robbed. Derozan was robbed. Steve Francis was underrated and TMac, 360 pump dunk off the bounce.
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Old 02-14-2013, 09:43 PM   #24
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1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve9o8gyUYLM J-Rich Off the glass, between the legs

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhZs9vDflzc J.R. Smith Behind The Back

3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oHGL7vBLGM V.C. 360 Windmill

4.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUaWZEiOL0U Demar Derozan - The Show Stopper (Dude got robbed)

5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq11VVkdPZU Jordan Kiss The Rim

6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NpPtKRLuq0 Larry Johnson The Original 360 windmill 32:07 of this video.

7. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWcR0N4iGSk Darvin Ham - Touch The Glass 360

8. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYOW9VvmoYk Harold Miner - 180 cuff windmill

9. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6z9-l4hnMM AI to AI - Behind The Glass Dunk

10. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y5yb_u3OFw Amare - Off Steve Nash's Head

These were probably the prettiest dunks that I've ever seen in a dunk contest. Feel free to disagree with my list.

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Old 02-14-2013, 09:59 PM   #25
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People still acting like he did it on purpose. It's one thing to do that in a game, when you're getting fouled... but THE MAN DIDN'T JUMP FAR ENOUGH.
This. It was a nice, but not better than Carter's 360.
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:14 PM   #26
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oh yeah. Iggy was robbed. Derozan was robbed. Steve Francis was underrated and TMac, 360 pump dunk off the bounce.

Yeah, the 2000 dunk contest was great because not only did VC give a near perfect performance, but TMac and Francis showed up with really good performances as well.


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I respectfully disagree. I personally believe dunking the ball between-the-legs after throwing it off the backboard would be much more difficult than a self-alley off the bounce. Lobbing and bouncing the rock tends to provide players with a little more time to prepare, especially when it's a self-pass (as opposed to a teammate pass). Also, not having the ball in one's hands for such an extended period of time allows for the freedom of approaching, planting, and leaping exactly when you want.

On a backboard toss, the process is pretty much in motion as the toss is happening. The ball's not floating in its dunk zone as long and it's pretty much an insane bang-bang play to be able to make the toss then still be able to throw it between the legs on the catch.

Also, to be a complete stickler, I thought Richardson's bounce between-the-legs was a little ugly. And, when discussing the greatest dunk contest dunks of all-time (particularly when considering one slam for the top spot) I think those dunks better appear just about perfect. In this case, J-Rich's dunk was outstanding, but it also looked a little awkward, lacked in power, and did not go down cleanly.

In contrast, I found Vince Carter's cuffed, clockwise 360 windmill to be just about as perfect as a dunk can get. I don't know if that makes it number one on the list but in all the areas I'd nick Richardson's bounce dunk, Carter's slam excels. In fact, in those same areas, Richardson's backboard slam excels (although I guess it could have gone down slightly stronger).

You will get no arguments from me on Carter's 360 windmill. It is the single best looking dunk I've ever seen. Basketball porn, if you will.

Meh, we can argue the semantics of the dunk. To me the reasons why Richardson's final dunk in 2003 ranks at the very top is twofold:

1) The moment and situation.
Desmond Mason was a terrific dunker and those two went at it all throughout the competition. It was definitely one of the best battles in a dunk contest, up there with Dominique and MJ. It came down to the final dunk, he needed like a 49 or 50 to win, and Richardson completed it on his very first try (something important to me). For the same reason why I'll take a clean jumper to win a game in the Finals over some ridiculous move and circus shot to win a regular season game, I like this dunk.

2) The dunk itself was just about as far as creativity should be allowed in a dunk contest.
Self alley? Done before. From the base line? Nothing new. Between the legs? Solid, maybe good, is all. But he combined everything with the added difficulty of going between the legs reverse. He literally picked parts of the greatest dunks ever, joined them, added a little of his own flavor, and that treasure emerged.

There was so much going on in the dunk that it almost felt like he made up what he was going to do after his jump in the first viewing, yet it still came off simple --in a good way. Like a good painting, from afar you see a beautiful picture and that's great and all. Then when you look up close (the replay), you can see the true intention of every little brush stroke and only then do you realize what a masterpiece it is.

I do agree that it could have been cleaner and/or stronger to some extent. However, considering the level of difficulty pertaining in that dunk, it really couldn't have been much better unless he can jump higher. Which, imo, would take a little away from the dunk.

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Yeah, the 2000 dunk contest was great because not only did VC give a near perfect performance, but TMac and Francis showed up with really good performances as well.




You will get no arguments from me on Carter's 360 windmill. It is the single best looking dunk I've ever seen. Basketball porn, if you will.

Meh, we can argue the semantics of the dunk. To me the reasons why Richardson's final dunk in 2003 ranks at the very top is twofold:

1) The moment and situation.
Desmond Mason was a terrific dunker and those two went at it all throughout the competition. It was definitely one of the best battles in a dunk contest, up there with Dominique and MJ. It came down to the final dunk, he needed like a 49 or 50 to win, and Richardson completed it on his very first try (something important to me). For the same reason why I'll take a clean jumper to win a game in the Finals over some ridiculous move and circus shot to win a regular season game, I like this dunk.

2) The dunk itself was just about as far as creativity should be allowed in a dunk contest.
Self alley? Done before. From the base line? Nothing new. Between the legs? Solid, maybe good, is all. But he combined everything with the added difficulty of going between the legs reverse. He literally picked parts of the greatest dunks ever, joined them, and that treasure emerged.

There was so much going on in the dunk that it almost felt like he made up what he was going to do after his jump in the first viewing, yet it still came off simple --in a good way. Like a good painting, from afar you see a beautiful picture and that's great and all. Then when you look up close (the replay), you can see the true intention of every little brush stroke and only then do you realize what a masterpiece it is.

I do agree that it could have been cleaner and/or stronger to some extent. However, considering the level of difficulty pertaining in that dunk, it really couldn't have been much better unless he can jump higher. Which, imo, would take a little away from the dunk.
Good stuff. I agree with some things (loved that battle between Richardson and Mason) and still do not entirely agree with other things, but I respect it. It was a great dunk all the same.
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J Rich and VC should have 4 of the top 5. With MJ sneaking in with his free throw line at 4th or 5th somewhere.

But c'mon. The between the legs off the backboard was the sickest dunk of all time in the dunk contest. Its not close.
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