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Old 02-17-2013, 10:53 AM   #61
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Default Re: Knife, 3-foot lead pipe, or pistol with 1 bullet?

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I've blocked a wooden baseball bat with my forearm before and as much as if Fukkin killed and bruised my bone, I don't see how a pipe is all that different

Yeah metal and wood are the same thing, right? A pipe has less surface area and is made of metal.

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- Picking the gun is stupid. 99.9% of people couldn't hit shit accurately and you've only got one shot. Even you people that have shot one probably couldn't hit a moving target in a life and death scenario.

- A knife isn't very effective unless you're trained to fight with one, or stab someone in an ambush.

- A pipe gives you more reach than the knife, it's easier to use with less skill, and you can land a concentrated blow to someone and incapacitate them.
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Old 02-17-2013, 11:01 AM   #62
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Shooting someone with a gun at close range is very easy.

This isn't the matrix, in the real world people can't dodge bullets

Just take your time, aim...shoot...man down


you want to know what most can't do? Fight with a knife or club...that takes actual skill.
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Old 02-17-2013, 11:13 AM   #63
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Default Re: Knife, 3-foot lead pipe, or pistol with 1 bullet?

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Shooting someone with a gun at close range is very easy.

This isn't the matrix, in the real world people can't dodge bullets

Just take your time, aim...shoot...man down


you want to know what most can't do? Fight with a knife or club...that takes actual skill.

A kill shot on a moving target doesn't require skill? Simple bobbing and weaving is plenty to avoid one shot from an amateur, especially when there's two targets the guy has to shoot at.

Once you waste that bullet it's useless. Tossing a gun at someone won't kill them, and pistol whipping won't do much unless you're adept with hand to hand combat.

Anyone can wail on someone with a pipe. Even apes are capable of hitting things with sticks.
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Old 02-17-2013, 11:34 AM   #64
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Default Re: Knife, 3-foot lead pipe, or pistol with 1 bullet?

It doesn't have to be a kill shot.
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Old 02-17-2013, 12:15 PM   #65
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Shooting someone with a gun at close range is very easy.

This isn't the matrix, in the real world people can't dodge bullets

Just take your time, aim...shoot...man down


you want to know what most can't do? Fight with a knife or club...that takes actual skill.

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Hitting a moving target with a single bullet in a life or death situation would be incredibly difficult.

Real life is not like a movie or Call of Duty. All these incredible shots you see on TV don't ever happen in reality. I guarantee you if I took you to a shooting range you wouldn't hit the bullseye on a stationary piece of paper with your first shot, let alone a moving target.
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far as the pistol, it better be a goddamn magnum with a 44 caliber at least

Yes.

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Wait, how big lead pipes are we talking about here? 3 foot in diameter or length?

Can we sharpen the tip of the lead pipe?

Could we attach sharp objects into the lead pipe?

Could we have one of those lead pipes that has multiple other lead pipes on it?

Could we use the pipe as a BLOW PIPE?

3 foot length, whichever diameter you want within reason

You can fashion the pipe however you choose, but remember that you'd have to do this during live combat in a constrained area. I guess if you steal the knife guy's weapon you can attach it, but I don't know how you'd acquire darts or needles for a blow pipe.

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Can it be a .50 cal explosive/incendiary round? :)

Standard round (maybe piercing, but I'm trying to underpower the gun in order to make all three options relatively equally attractive).
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You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Hitting a moving target with a single bullet in a life or death situation would be incredibly difficult.

Real life is not like a movie or Call of Duty. All these incredible shots you see on TV don't ever happen in reality. I guarantee you if I took you to a shooting range you wouldn't hit the bullseye on a stationary piece of paper with your first shot, let alone a moving target.
I'm a gun owner and go to the range somewhat often...its you who has no idea what your talking about...do you think these guys are just going to run in circles forever? Lol

A woman can shoot a pistol...and they do

If you can't shoot someone close range with a pistol, then you are probably 10x as worthless with a malee weapon
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I nominate Primetime, Bmulls and Jefferson Money for the death cage.

Make it happen, Jeff.
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Old 02-17-2013, 02:20 PM   #69
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Just about everyone in this thread seems to think movies = RL.
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Give me a gun with one bullet vs. anyone with any blunt object and I am winning 100 times out of 100...unless of course you are Neo or Agent Smith



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1. handguns
2. knives
3. blunt objects

why are murders at different rates with different weapons? they are listed by ease of use...it's really hard to kill someone with a pipe or bat, many times that ends up with both people holding it and pulling at it...whch is why killers have more success with knives, but of course a handgun takes the cake.
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Default Re: Knife, 3-foot lead pipe, or pistol with 1 bullet?

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Can it be a .50 cal explosive/incendiary round? :)
You're trying too hard to showoff your weapon knowledge. And with that knife you posted, I'm sure you would be gunman's priority target and gun>>>>knife...

Gun has too much power to pass up on it imo. With gun, you have one almost certain kill and you can try to take his weapon. If you choose knife or pipe, you have 50% of getting shot.
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Or unless the shooter has the brains to simply pick up the weapon of the man he just shot

Apparently you don't have to brains to consider the guy with the pipe isn't gonna let you pick up the knife un-contested; PT just got a pipe to the skull.
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Apparently you don't have to brains to consider the guy with the pipe isn't gonna let you pick up the knife un-contested; PT just got a pipe to the skull.
This is why it's too risky to be offensive in this situation unless you are overly skilled compared to the other two guys of if the other guy is too much of a ***** to do anything after you kill your first target.
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It doesn't have to be a kill shot.

Yeah it does. If this is to the death someone that was merely winged by a bullet isn't going to stop and cry about it.

The other guy would then go after the gun holder because the gun has no power once the bullet is shot. (Assuming everyone knows about the 1 bullet caveat)
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Give me a gun with one bullet vs. anyone with any blunt object and I am winning 100 times out of 100...unless of course you are Neo or Agent Smith



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2. knives
3. blunt objects

why are murders at different rates with different weapons? they are listed by ease of use...it's really hard to kill someone with a pipe or bat, many times that ends up with both people holding it and pulling at it...whch is why killers have more success with knives, but of course a handgun takes the cake.

Murder rates are different because of different weapon availabilities and killing power. It's much easier to get a gun, have it in your pocket and then shoot someone than it is to bludgeon someone to death.

A gun also leaves less time for the assailant to think about their actions. One pull of the trigger and the person could die. You have to wreck someone repeatedly with a blunt object to kill them, most people would probably realize they should stop before it gets to the point of brains on the floor... Then it would just be assault charges or attempted murder.
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