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Old 02-21-2013, 12:57 PM   #16
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Default Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2

Gasol led the Lakers in Win Shares each of the 3 full seasons he was there (from 2009 to 2011)
He finished 2nd in the league in 2011 in it, led the Lakers in both PER and Win Shares in 2010 and led the entire playoffs in Win Shares in 2010 while having a 24.0 PER in the playoffs and posted a 25.5 PER in the 2010 finals. Had over a 4.3 Win Share in 2009 as well in the playoffs.

He wasn't a superstar by name, but that is superstar production and even had greater production than his own teammate in some of those years.
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Old 02-21-2013, 12:59 PM   #17
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Default Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2

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i know everyone needs help

kobe just needed allot less than 90% of finals mvps

ofcourse if you take off your 2nd best player itel be hard to win

just saying kobes second best player for 2 straight titles was PAU GASOFT


lakers might be one of the only teams in history to win a title with ZERO interior defense


i don't see how gasol/odom/fisher/bynum/ariza(artest) coached by phil jackson is not a lot of help when you are playing the competition the Lakers played...

honestly the only great team they played was the 10 celtics...and it went 7 and could have gone either way
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:01 PM   #18
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Default Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2

Hakeem won it with vernon maxwell as the Rocket's 2nd option in the playoffs and he averaged 14ppg on 37% shooting.

so Hakeem the G.O.A.T. right?
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:01 PM   #19
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Kobe shot 25% on the most shot attempts in Game 7 and benefitted from the other team's defensive anchor going down with an injury for one of those rings.

I don't even care if you classify Gasol as a "bum", but it's impossible to paint Kobe as a hero who carried that team when others had to clean up his mess.
The Lakers shot 32% as a team. While Kobe struggled from the field, he got to the Line 15 times, 9 times in the 4th quarter. Also grabbed 15 rebounds, the most defensive rebounds in the game. Nobody cleaned up his "mess". If his teammates showed up in Game 5, there would be no need for a Game 7.
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:04 PM   #20
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Gasol led the Lakers in Win Shares each of the 3 full seasons he was there (from 2009 to 2011)
He finished 2nd in the league in 2011 in it, led the Lakers in both PER and Win Shares in 2010 and led the entire playoffs in Win Shares in 2010 while having a 24.0 PER in the playoffs and posted a 25.5 PER in the 2010 finals. Had over a 4.3 Win Share in 2009 as well in the playoffs.

He wasn't a superstar by name, but that is superstar production and even had greater production than his own teammate in some of those years.
Kobe led the Lakers in PER and WS in the 2009 Playoffs and in PER in the 2010 Playoffs. Those stats are bullshit anyway.

Clyde Drexler had a higher playoff WS in the 1995 Playoffs than Hakeem.

Pau Gasol had a higher playoff PER in 2010 than every single playoff Larry Bird had except '84.
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:09 PM   #21
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The Lakers shot 32% as a team.

Then that speaks to the fact that the Lakers faced a historically bad old ass team missing their young defensive anchor.

Once again, Kobe lucked out. LUCK.
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:14 PM   #22
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Then that speaks to the fact that the Lakers faced a historically bad old ass team missing their young defensive anchor.

Once again, Kobe lucked out. LUCK.
Did he luck out in Game 5 when he had 21 straight laker points in one stretch, finishing with 38 points, but lost?
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:18 PM   #23
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Then that speaks to the fact that the Lakers faced a historically bad old ass team missing their young defensive anchor.

Once again, Kobe lucked out. LUCK.

So mad.
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Default Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2

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Pau was great in the 09 & 10 Playoffs.
18/11/3/2 58FG
20/11/4/2 54FG

"Bum"

OP's a retard.
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Did he luck out in Game 5 when he had 21 straight laker points in one stretch, finishing with 38 points, but lost?

Naw, Game 5 was his own fault. Chemistry killer in that game. He knew he was facing a old senile weak opponent and tried to do too much.
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Default Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2

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Did he luck out in Game 5 when he had 21 straight laker points in one stretch, finishing with 38 points, but lost?

Gasol decided not to carry Kobe that game and lakers lost
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:25 PM   #27
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Hakeem > Kobe then b/c he did it with a worse supporting cast.


for 1 title.. yea... if all these guys only had 1 title. hakeem would be at the top


but hakeem only did it once, and overall twice with his 2nd coming with clyde


kobe has multiple rings with no other hall of famer. and 5 overall as a guy averaging 25-30ppg/5reb/5ast+


only guy hakeem outranks out of those 4 guys is lebron
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Old 02-21-2013, 01:28 PM   #28
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Default Re: Lebron+wade= 1, Jordan+pippen=6, magic+kareem=5, Kobe+pau= 2

OK we get it. Kobe's second option was clearly not as good as Jordan, LeBron or Magic/Kareem's second option. But despite not being very superstar heavy, a team of Kobe, Gasol, Odom, Bynum, Ariza, Fish coached by Phil Jackson is by no means a bad team.

And Gasol certainly is no bum(or at least wasn't back then 08-10).
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for 1 title.. yea... if all these guys only had 1 title. hakeem would be at the top


but hakeem only did it once, and overall twice with his 2nd coming with clyde


kobe has multiple rings with no other hall of famer. and 5 overall as a guy averaging 25-30ppg/5reb/5ast+


only guy hakeem outranks out of those 4 guys is lebron

What are you even saying? Pau isn't a HOFer?
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What are you even saying? Pau isn't a HOFer?
You actually read his shit? It's cancerous.
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