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Old 02-24-2013, 12:10 PM   #91
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damn... freaky stuff...
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Seems like a piece of shit hotel going by that reviws.

Here are some tidbits from a few reviews on http://www.expedia.ca/Los-Angeles-Ho...mation#reviews

all before the incident

"There is a lot of homeless people asking money, and for those like me that were saving money using just buses and subways, it's kind of scary and not that safe getting there after the nightfall. There is no parties around there, and places to eat close very early."

"The hotel disadvantages are as follow: the rooms are dark with odd smell, there is only sink inside the rooms, shower rooms and toilets are in the corridors and shared with other guests, continental breakfast was only cereals and the water provided for tea in the flasks was cold every day. (Nowhere near continental breakfast,).Plenty of homeless around however not trouble to anybody, not a suitable hotel for families and young kids."

"Almost got robbed walking out of the hotel by a Mexican gang member
Depolorable aesthetics.
They hiked the vending machine prices basically in front of me because I was buying alot from it. Sink in room had mildew and grime present. My room reminded me that "Hell" does exist, With how sweltering it was"

"The area surrounding the hotel was very scarry to say the least. For exemple, there was a homeless person sleeping outside the front door.
As for the cleanliness - it was horrible - for example, had to kill a very large cockrotch in our room that had terrified my son.

This was by far the worst hotel I had ever stayed in. Please NEVER recommmend this to others. I have stayed numerous times with Expedia hotels and always have been satisfied with the accomodations -not this time"

"Pathetic..
The rooms are not at all neat. The walls were like can fall apart anytime. feel like you are in a haunted building.

Was scared to walk in the corridors.
Dont get proper hot water in the mornings.
The bed creeks.. There is no ACs, which I didnt knew until I checked-in.
They say the bathroom is shared for 4 rooms, but its for entire floor.
Not many options will be available for you to upgrade even if you want to, by paying extra money.
They dont serve any good breakfast.
The receptionist doesn't provide any good basic information.
They have these 4 sets of deadbolts to the door, that itself shows that even they are not sure of their customers safety.
We were continuously hearing to the loud police sirens all night long, can hardly sleep."
Dont recommends if you are looking fora pleasant stay. Not worth the price.


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"The elevators from hell. I believe they went all the way down to hell; that's why they took so long."


"What a piece of shit"


"5 minutes after leaving the hotel I noticed that I left my wallet back there. I didn't bother retrieving it"

I was just being nice posting these, A lot of people going into a lot of detail on how much of a piece of shit is it in there just too long to post in here, go see for yourself on the link

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"5 minutes after leaving the hotel I noticed that I left my wallet back there. I didn't bother retrieving it"

I was just being nice posting these, A lot of people going into a lot of detail on how much of a piece of shit is it in there just too long to post in here, go see for yourself on the link

LOL.. must be pretty bad to not even try to retrieve your wallet.
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Regarding what button Elisa Lam presses in the CCTV footage -



Elisa Lam was responsible for keeping the elevator door open by pressing the DOOR HOLD button.


Look at this image of the Cecil Hotel elevator panel she used.




The buttons she presses on the middle row from top to bottom:

14 (the floor she was on, since the button didn't light up), 10, 7, 4 (the floor of her hotel room), M (mezzanine), B (basement) and finally the DOOR HOLD button on the very bottom.


On the youtube video, here is the time lime that I believe is what went down on the night of February 1st when that CCTV footage was recorded in the elevator -


0:03 Elisa enters elevator, no glasses. Demeanor suggest in a normal state, no panic.

0:06 She leans her face very close to the elevator panel buttons, but has a hard time to make up the numbers.

Using her memory, she remembers the 4th floor (her hotel room floor) is on the middle row. She decides, "what the heck", and presses the entire middle row as a gamble hoping she reach her floor.

0:07 Look at this image of the Cecil Hotel elevator panel she used.

0:11 Right when she is about to press the final button on the bottom, the DOOR HOLD button (refer to the picture on my reply post), notice the elevator door about to close.

It is only then when she presses the DOOR HOLD button that the elevator door retracts, and remains open.

0:13 Elisa backs up and waits for the elevator to close as normal. However it takes too long and then she begins to wonder if somebody is outside the hallway preventing the door from closing

0:23 Elisa slowly and cautiously steps forward to investigate the hallway. She carefully lunges out quick to get a quick peek out the hallway - but nobody is outside.

0:25 Elisa steps back into the elevator, bemused at finding nobody outside the hallway. I can imagine right now, her feeling nervous and confused. She wonders to herself, "is it a ghost??" "Is somebody outside the elevator?"

She spooks her self, and backs into the elevator wall, and into the corner

0:39 she musters up the courage again to step out the elevator to see if anybody is outside. Slowly taking cautious steps since there is a hallway on the left and right, and anybody is able to hide around the corner there.

0:57 At this point, security guards in the CCTV monitor room, watching her every move via the CCTV camera in the elevator get concerned, and one of them is dispatched to take the second elevator next to the one Elisa is in up to the 14th floor.

1:12 Elisa stands outside the elevator, back against the wall. She wonders if there is a problem with the elevator sensor and waits to see if it will close if she is out of the elevator

1:27 After waiting for so long for the elevator to work, with no luck - Elisa becomes frustrated and panics. She puts her hands on her head and gets back in the elevator as if to say "oh my god, why isn't this elevator working??"

This is when she gives a second attempt, to press ALL off the buttons again, only on the middle row to see if it will work. Unknowingly, she presses the DOOR HOLD button multiple times, triggering it on and off and on, resetting the door hold timer.

1:56 Elisa steps out the elevator again, and by this time, the security guard using the other elevator beside the one Elisa is in finally reaches up the 14th floor.

He steps out, away from camera view from the 1st elevator and calls out to? Elisa asking what is going on.

Elisa is surprised, and then gestures toward the elevator explaining her dilemma with the elevator not working. The guard asks her how many times she (still figuring out what), and Elisa uses her fingers to count 3 times.

I believe that Elisa Lam was looking for a public shower room that was vacant since the one on the 4th floor was occupied.

The Stay on Main hostel rooms at the Cecil Hotel are on the 1st - 5th floor as I'm told from somebody who stayed there a year ago. There are no showers in those resident rooms, which is why they need to use the public shower rooms located out on the hallway.

She must of been too stubborn to go back to her hotel room to get her glasses, which is why she is seen having trouble seeing the buttons on the elevator, and then taking a gamble to press the entire column hoping she'll get to her 4th floor from the 14th floor, but she unknowingly pressed the DOOR HOLD button as well.

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Regarding what button Elisa Lam presses in the CCTV footage -



Elisa Lam was responsible for keeping the elevator door open by pressing the DOOR HOLD button.


Look at this image of the Cecil Hotel elevator panel she used.




The buttons she presses on the middle row from top to bottom:

14 (the floor she was on, since the button didn't light up), 10, 7, 4 (the floor of her hotel room), M (mezzanine), B (basement) and finally the DOOR HOLD button on the very bottom.


On the youtube video, here is the time lime that I believe is what went down on the night of February 1st when that CCTV footage was recorded in the elevator -


0:03 Elisa enters elevator, no glasses. Demeanor suggest in a normal state, no panic.

0:06 She leans her face very close to the elevator panel buttons, but has a hard time to make up the numbers.

Using her memory, she remembers the 4th floor (her hotel room floor) is on the middle row. She decides, "what the heck", and presses the entire middle row as a gamble hoping she reach her floor.


I can't imagine someone that would just press all the buttons in the middle. That would mean A LOT of stops before you get to the 4th floor.

0:07 Look at this image of the Cecil Hotel elevator panel she used.

0:11 Right when she is about to press the final button on the bottom, the DOOR HOLD button (refer to the picture on my reply post), notice the elevator door about to close.

It is only then when she presses the DOOR HOLD button that the elevator door retracts, and remains open.

0:13 Elisa backs up and waits for the elevator to close as normal. However it takes too long and then she begins to wonder if somebody is outside the hallway preventing the door from closing

0:23 Elisa slowly and cautiously steps forward to investigate the hallway. She carefully lunges out quick to get a quick peek out the hallway - but nobody is outside.

0:25 Elisa steps back into the elevator, bemused at finding nobody outside the hallway. I can imagine right now, her feeling nervous and confused. She wonders to herself, "is it a ghost??" "Is somebody outside the elevator?"

She spooks her self, and backs into the elevator wall, and into the corner

0:39 she musters up the courage again to step out the elevator to see if anybody is outside. Slowly taking cautious steps since there is a hallway on the left and right, and anybody is able to hide around the corner there.

0:57 At this point, security guards in the CCTV monitor room, watching her every move via the CCTV camera in the elevator get concerned, and one of them is dispatched to take the second elevator next to the one Elisa is in up to the 14th floor.


If that was the case, they would have interviewed the security guards that day. The only reason the LAPD even released this video to the public was to find her when she was reported missing. If there was nothing strange about the video, or if the security guard that checked up on her said everything was fine.. this video wouldn't have even been released.

1:12 Elisa stands outside the elevator, back against the wall. She wonders if there is a problem with the elevator sensor and waits to see if it will close if she is out of the elevator

1:27 After waiting for so long for the elevator to work, with no luck - Elisa becomes frustrated and panics. She puts her hands on her head and gets back in the elevator as if to say "oh my god, why isn't this elevator working??"

This is when she gives a second attempt, to press ALL off the buttons again, only on the middle row to see if it will work. Unknowingly, she presses the DOOR HOLD button multiple times, triggering it on and off and on, resetting the door hold timer.

1:56 Elisa steps out the elevator again, and by this time, the security guard using the other elevator beside the one Elisa is in finally reaches up the 14th floor.

He steps out, away from camera view from the 1st elevator and calls out to? Elisa asking what is going on.

If a security guard actually spoke to her before she went missing, wouldn't that be an important fact to the investigation? Nothing was ever mentioned that a security guard actually spoke to Elisa. If the security guard was the last one to actually speak to her before she was killed, he should seriously be considered as an important witness.

Elisa is surprised, and then gestures toward the elevator explaining her dilemma with the elevator not working. The guard asks her how many times she (still figuring out what), and Elisa uses her fingers to count 3 times.
Elisa was gesturing / speaking to someone on the right side. If it was the security guard, how come he never once walks past the camera? Elisa leaves on the left side of the screen. So the security guard just told her to be on her way, and left her alone? Wouldn't he have just went to the elevator to see what's wrong? Possibly just releasing the hold door button for her?


I believe that Elisa Lam was looking for a public shower room that was vacant since the one on the 4th floor was occupied.


If she was looking for a public shower, why didn't she have any towels, change or clothes, soap, etc?

The Stay on Main hostel rooms at the Cecil Hotel are on the 1st - 5th floor as I'm told from somebody who stayed there a year ago. There are no showers in those resident rooms, which is why they need to use the public shower rooms located out on the hallway.

She must of been too stubborn to go back to her hotel room to get her glasses, which is why she is seen having trouble seeing the buttons on the elevator, and then taking a gamble to press the entire column hoping she'll get to her 4th floor from the 14th floor, but she unknowingly pressed the DOOR HOLD button as well.

c/p

Nothing you stated makes any sense except for the "Door Hold" button.

Are there timers to the door hold button, or will it only close if the button is released?

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damn... freaky stuff...
look at this

Decomposing body found in water tank that of Elisa Lam..

Hotel guests/residents were drinking/ingesting, bathing etc. with this water.

TB test, which is for a particular form of TB (that can be contracted by ingesting)
MIRRORS HER NAME.

Hotel Cecil, Downtown LA
ELISA LAM.

TB outbreak, Downtown LA
LAM ELISA (Name of test)

ELISA LAM= LAM ELISA

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Feb - 21 - 2013

Thousands May Have Been Exposed To Deadly TB Epidemic Downtown


LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — The feds are descending on downtown Los Angeles to combat what they say might be a dangerous outbreak of a drug-resistant strain of tuberculosis.

Jeff Nguyen, reporting for CBS2 and KCAL9, went downtown in search of people who may have been exposed.

John Williams started living at the Weingart shelter on LA’s Skid Row two weeks ago. Before he could be admitted he had to undergo a screening for tuberculosis.

Full story: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/...emic-downtown/


-The 2 locations of interest are maybe 2 minutes apart.
-Some sort of illuminati/elitist sacrifice?
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look at this

Decomposing body found in water tank that of Elisa Lam..

Hotel guests/residents were drinking/ingesting, bathing etc. with this water.

TB test, which is for a particular form of TB (that can be contracted by ingesting)
MIRRORS HER NAME.

Hotel Cecil, Downtown LA
ELISA LAM.

TB outbreak, Downtown LA
LAM ELISA (Name of test)

ELISA LAM= LAM ELISA

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Feb - 21 - 2013

Thousands May Have Been Exposed To Deadly TB Epidemic Downtown


LOS ANGELES (CBSLA.com) — The feds are descending on downtown Los Angeles to combat what they say might be a dangerous outbreak of a drug-resistant strain of tuberculosis.

Jeff Nguyen, reporting for CBS2 and KCAL9, went downtown in search of people who may have been exposed.

John Williams started living at the Weingart shelter on LA’s Skid Row two weeks ago. Before he could be admitted he had to undergo a screening for tuberculosis.

Full story: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/...emic-downtown/


-The 2 locations of interest are maybe 2 minutes apart.
-Some sort of illuminati/elitist sacrifice?

Not sure if I believe this, but there is a company called "the invisible light agency" that is actually located at the hotel.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Cecil+Hotel,+South+Main+Street,+Los+Angeles ,+CA,+United+States&hl=en&ll=34.044527,-118.250611&spn=0.000527,0.000597&sll=34.04569,-118.254004&sspn=0.049214,0.057249&oq=cecil&hq=Ceci l+Hotel,+South+Main+Street,+Los+Angeles,+CA,+Unite d+States&t=h&z=21

Their company website is nothing but a pyramid: http://invisiblelight.tv/

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No possible way this could be just a coincidence
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Some Homeless and transient folks with Mental disorders....

The actual Hotel itself looks pretty nice.
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Hello everybody!

Facts to this Hotel:
1. No Airconditioning
2. unbearable loude
3. dusty old room - with a too small bed - clean bathroom (except the shower)
4. Downtown - BUT! - no savety outside - at night and during daytime a lot of homeless people, who are bagging all the time !
5. AND parking for 24h is very expensive ! (16-20$)

Result : If it's possible : STAY AWAY OF THIS HOTEL !!!

PS, Don't get confused by the pictures on the homepage !
Stayed August 2010, traveled with friends

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So a friend & I did not book a hotel room until we started driving to LA from another part of CA..we found this hotel on priceline.com & booked a room being that it was so cheap & we did not want to spend a chunk of money on a place we were not going to be at all day. BIG MISTAKE. PLEASE DO NOT BE CHEAP WHEN IT COMES TO GETTING A HOTEL ROOM. The outside of the building is kind of run down & dirty, do not let the pictures fool you. But the inside lobby was nice..beautiful marble floors, nice color scheme, but very very old school. Older than old school. I knew something was up when they handed us our keys..they look like dorm room keys!! So we get in the elevator, which btw smelled terrible..like garbage. When we get to our floor & are trying to find our rooms, we see the "community showers & toilets." WE WERE NOT INFORMED OUR ROOM DID NOT HAVE A BATHROOM. The shower would make you calustrophobic. It looked like a place where a rapist would get u or where someone would stash a dead body. I also did not like the idea of sharing the shower!! There was no barrier to the shower or anything it was just a door seperating it from the hallway..& the toilets. OMG. There was doo-doo smeared all over one of them. By this time we were already disgusted & didnt even find our room yet. The hallways were hot being that there is no air conditioning & it smelled foul. & THEN we found our room.

We put the key in & it didnt even work. Thats because you had to almost break down the door to get in. The smell of smoke & old man cologne was in the room. It had holes & rips in the carpet & had a sink. The mattress was cheap & when you looked out the window it looked like you were in the projects. Every single screen on every window was bent & or torn as if sum1 were trying to get in or jump out. & were talking the 14th floor. We were pissed because this was not what we expected. We complained to priceline & the front lobby & were told we cannot cancel this reservation without being charged for the night. & while on the phone, the cleaning lady barges in even with our "do not disturb" placard on the door knob. Because we could not cancel this, we decided to upgrade our room.

So we are moved to the 9th floor..this time the elevator smelled like straight up armpits. The hallways smelled the same, like garbage, & our lock on the door was flimsy. BUT we had a bathroom. It had a toilet & sink, but no tub. There is just a shower head on the ceiling so basically the whole bathroom was the shower with a toilet in it. There was this creepy little vent on the wall that creeped the crap out of me because it was like someone could be watching. But we tried to make the most out of it so we turned the tv on while we got ready to go to the beach.

When we were leaving, we did not bother to turn the tv off & again put up our "do not disturb" sign. Hours later when we returned, our tv was off. Everything else was in place, I didnt think the cleaning lady was in there. We were a little creeped out but joked around that the place was haunted. I wouldnt doubt it, being that its old & it looked like a place where you would go after your wife kicked you out & commit suicide. It reminded me of the movie The Shining. Everything about the place was creepy..very diverse guests, BUT crackheads & bums surround the area. Even in the lobby. Very, very unprofessional..but anyways!! We were very glad to check out. But upon checking out, I asked the guy working if the hotel was haunted. He had a look on his face as if we were already supposed to know, & said so casually, YES. We started laughing because we thought he was joking around, but I asked why? He says, "Well this hotel has been around since the 1920's & there have been murders & suicides throughout the years.." My mouth dropped!! My friend then asked, "Are there timers on the tvs?" & he said no..but ppl ask ALL the time. So we are scared to be in that place so we hurry out of there..on our long drive home, I start to google the history on this place. Sure enough, it comes up as one of the haunted hotels in la. Its a historical landmark, the 1st hotel in la to have 3 stories. Its also where movie stars used to hang out, & also a place where a few movie stars committed suicide..I still cant believe we stayed in that dorm-like piece of trash but please..if you do not wish to have an experience like this, splurge a little.
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you can log in the site here lol

http://invisiblelight.tv/il_client_login.php



and here's their facebook with 3 likes lol

http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-In...08696405839841

I pretty much researched the site myself too. There's nothing on their site but a Log In.

I also checked their FB page and it had 3 Likes. So I clicked to see who the likes were and saw a couple of FB pages.

Browsing through it, one of the guys seem to like other agencies such as screen writing and stuff. It could be some Hollywood movie agency or something of that sorts.

WHOIS...doesn't show who the owner of the site is either.
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Someone should call the agency, if there's a number and say the guy's name on Facebook told you to call them and find out what they are all about.

ISH investigation up in here.
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Look at this image of the Cecil Hotel elevator panel she used.





Cecil only has 14 floors and no mezzanine
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I pretty much researched the site myself too. There's nothing on their site but a Log In.

I also checked their FB page and it had 3 Likes. So I clicked to see who the likes were and saw a couple of FB pages.

Browsing through it, one of the guys seem to like other agencies such as screen writing and stuff. It could be some Hollywood movie agency or something of that sorts.

WHOIS...doesn't show who the owner of the site is either.

Found this on the agency

http://radaris.com/p/Cynthia/Hongpanich/


Cynthia Hongpanich

Title: Executive Producer and CoFounder :: The Invisible Light Agency

Location: Greater Los Angeles Area

Industry: Broadcast Media

Past: Musician / Concert Manager at The Classical Four - Accordion Quartet, Freelance Producer at Pyrographik, Senior Producer at TEQUILA / TBWA Advertising Agency, Project Manager at Team One


Looks like a talent type of agency or something like that... Probably really small time outfit.. addy is next door to the Cecil at 620 not 640
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Can't wait to see how this story unfolds, definitely crazy.
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for people who say that there was no foul play and it was an accidental death due to drugs or her going crazy or whatever...she was found naked right? then where were her clothes? if the clothes weren't found around the water tank then she would have had to strip naked, hide her clothes somewhere while she wandered through this hotel without being seen and before reaching the roof. highly improbable. someone had to have gotten rid of the clothes right? foul play was definitely involved.
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