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Old 02-23-2013, 12:10 AM   #1
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Default Everything revolves around the non-observance of the sixth and seventh commandments

Big story in an Italian paper on Thursday about why the Pope quit.

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A potentially explosive report has linked the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI to the discovery of a network of gay prelates in the Vatican, some of whom the report said were being blackmailed by outsiders.

The pope's spokesman declined to confirm or deny the report, which was carried by the Italian daily newspaper La Repubblica.

The paper said the pope had taken the decision on 17 December that he was going to resign the day he received a dossier compiled by three cardinals delegated to look into the so-called "Vatileaks" affair.

Last May Pope Benedict's butler, Paolo Gabriele, was arrested and charged with having stolen and leaked papal correspondence that depicted the Vatican as a seething hotbed of intrigue and infighting......

The newspaper said the cardinals described a number of factions, including one whose members were "united by sexual orientation".

In an apparent quotation from the report, La Repubblica said some Vatican officials had been subject to "external influence" from laymen with whom they had links of a "worldly nature". The paper said this was a clear reference to blackmail.

It quoted a source "very close to those who wrote [the cardinal's report]" as saying: "Everything revolves around the non-observance of the sixth and seventh commandments."

The seventh enjoins against theft. The sixth forbids adultery, but is linked in Catholic doctrine to the proscribing of homosexual acts.
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:20 AM   #2
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USA Today says two Italian media sources are reporting this, the Respected La Republicca and a conservative weekly Panorama.

Man these Panorama guys don't mess around. From a previous story on gay priests:
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Old 02-23-2013, 12:26 AM   #3
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Default Re: Everything revolves around the non-observance of the sixth and seventh commandments

translated from the italian.

http://news.panorama.it/cronaca/conc...o-dossier-papa
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The dossier says Panorama, draws a large and detailed picture of the Roman Curia and does not spare even the closest collaborators of the Pope. Tell currents, power groups, economic interests, the activism of some cardinals to favor or damage colleagues. And then by some of the liberal use of the "mud machine" to hit opponents and even a powerful gay lobby can affect careers and decisions.
Some church tremble, writes Panorama, while others already think of countermeasures.
What is certain is that no one can ignore the contents of the report and the Sistine Chapel must leave a Pope blackmail in order to proceed to the action of cleaning Benedict XVI entrusted to his successor.
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Old 02-24-2013, 11:20 PM   #4
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Pope Benedict XVI's top aide on Saturday strongly criticized the media for spreading what he called "completely false" reports about the Vatican that he said were an attempt to manipulate the election of the pontiff's successor.....

"It is deplorable that as we draw closer to the time of the beginning of the Conclave...that there be a widespread distribution of often unverified, unverifiable or completely false news stories, that cause serious damage to persons and institutions," Cardinal Bertone said.
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Old 02-25-2013, 12:05 AM   #5
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Default Re: Everything revolves around the non-observance of the sixth and seventh commandments

ugh... this is a hard one to get excited over.

christos-religions and their participants have been of strong interest to me for a long time, but these kinds of events are like looking at the tail-end of the train wreck.

who gives a shit about the tail-end, other than rubberneckers?
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Old 02-25-2013, 01:53 AM   #6
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I think the real problem is they are still living their lives based on stone tablets they think were inscribed by God.
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Old 02-25-2013, 02:15 AM   #7
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see, the problem is that god never took that shit seriously in the first place.

i mean, the whole point of the joke was to enjoy the humorous top ten list and then smash the tablets over the head of the nearest egyptian.

instead, some group of special-needs kids ran away with the tablets and made an entire movement out of the nonsense. then, every time something mildly interesting happened, they whispered it down the line until someone heard that a godamned miracle occurred and said "HURRAH!" and some other fruitcake insisted "here, here! let me write all the sacred details down for you!"

if you went back and recounted how the whole thing worked out to the david lettermen of that day, he would have guffawed for a long, long time then finally said "hold on, you're not really SERIOUS, are you? hold on, fellas... wait! wait! seriously????"
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Old 02-25-2013, 02:17 AM   #8
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I think the real problem is they are still living their lives based on stone tablets they think were inscribed by God.

The problem is half the time they aren't even living up to that standard.
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Old 02-25-2013, 02:21 AM   #9
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Religion is a joke either way you slice it. Can people not see it's a coping mechanism for their inevitable death? Obviously not. Hilarious to me these delusional/brainwashed beings are put in some sort of power. Humans are so ****ing pathetic.
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Religion is a joke either way you slice it. Can people not see it's a coping mechanism for their inevitable death? Obviously not. Hilarious to me these delusional/brainwashed beings are put in some sort of power. Humans are so ****ing pathetic.
Talking about coping mechanisms. What you on?
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I wonder what will it take to finally topple the Catholic Church? Somehow I doubt this will, but their finances eventually might...
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I wonder what will it take to finally topple the Catholic Church? Somehow I doubt this will, but their finances eventually might...

It depends on where they make their next moves. They can either modernize and join the rest of the first world on social issues like contraception and homosexuality. Or they can invest in the third world and make up their numbers and money that way.
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I'm shocked it had nothing to do with children like in so many of these cases
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Talking about coping mechanisms. What you on?
Reality.
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Amazing to see many followers here willing to "modernize" on certain issues. Just seems like a formula for failure
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