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Old 02-25-2013, 07:22 PM   #31
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Default Re: Best bigs defending on the perimeter? Best wings defending in the post?

if you're trying to say Hakeem and Robinson didn't orchestrate their respective defenses then you are wrong. They called the sets , directed the other defenders as to how to operate and made the individual plays which put other defenders in a position to succeed.
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:24 PM   #32
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Andre Iguodala is a name that should be thrown into the mix.
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Old 02-25-2013, 08:06 PM   #33
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if you're trying to say Hakeem and Robinson didn't orchestrate their respective defenses then you are wrong. They called the sets , directed the other defenders as to how to operate and made the individual plays which put other defenders in a position to succeed.

Jordan was even more vocal than those two, did he ran his team's defense? Not really, at least not at the level I'm talking about.

Again putting things into perspective - PGs are from the scrub level till Magic/Stockton level. They are all calling sets, are vocal, etc. Does it mean scrub = Magic? There is a wide range of leadership, regardless which side of the floor.

From watching Dream/Drob/Rodman, etc, or reading their interviews and other players testimonies, none of them stand-out as elite maestros of the D. Individually - sure, they are at All-time great level. Thats where Russell and KG are on a whole different level - they are for the D as Magic is for the O. Its THAT rare.
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Old 02-25-2013, 09:19 PM   #34
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Jordan was even more vocal than those two, did he ran his team's defense? Not really, at least not at the level I'm talking about.

Again putting things into perspective - PGs are from the scrub level till Magic/Stockton level. They are all calling sets, are vocal, etc. Does it mean scrub = Magic? There is a wide range of leadership, regardless which side of the floor.

From watching Dream/Drob/Rodman, etc, or reading their interviews and other players testimonies, none of them stand-out as elite maestros of the D. Individually - sure, they are at All-time great level. Thats where Russell and KG are on a whole different level - they are for the D as Magic is for the O. Its THAT rare.

That is complete bs.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:22 PM   #35
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Paul pierce is a better post defender now than on perimeter

Jason kidd is very good post defense wise.

Anthony davis has done very well when defending on perimeter.


Absolutely agree.


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KG and Noah are two of the best bigs defending the perimeter in recent memory. Camby was also pretty decent at that back in his day.



Add Davis to that, in the future. They're all a bit similar. That was always my argument for Noah playing PF...not that he needs to play PF, but a post defender that can drop back to the basket when Noah is on the perimeter...that would make the Bulls an all-time defense.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:26 PM   #36
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You mean help defender? Sure he was. He didnt orchestrated the team's defense though, that was my point.




Robinson is the prototypical anchor. Maybe his communication isn't as great as the other two, but who is a more ideal anchor than David Robinson?


As he turned, the defense turned. So Hakeem was more individual (but I'd still consider him an anchor) and I understand why you're not putting him in this particular discussion, but Robinson fits.

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