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Old 02-26-2013, 11:31 AM   #16
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Paul George will be the same exact way.


What's with your random hate for Paul George? Nobody EVER claimed this dude had elite potential, why must you randomly take shots, dudes already an all star, seems humble, doesn't get into trouble off the court & is one of the better under 25 players in the game. Also plays hard defense & can knock down the 3. He's worked hard and improved every year and made his first all star team at 22 while being the best player on a contending team.. That's almost already more than what people were expecting

This dude was only compared to Tmac coming out of college because of his size/build for a perimeter player, and even then they never said anything about his offense having the potential to be elite..

You act like people are constantly putting him up there with Kyrie Irving potential wise.

maybe being a bulls fan leads to some dislike of The Pacers but your constant need to remind everybody that Paul George isn't the second coming of God is completely useless and irrelevant considering nobody thinks George has the kind of potential that you apparently believe we all do..
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:43 AM   #17
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I see Memphis fans are butthurt that they made a shitty trade. How can you say Rudy doesn't have an impact just look at the Raptors. They're now in the playoff hunt directly because of Rudy.
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Old 02-26-2013, 11:45 AM   #18
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Shooting under 40% since being traded to the raptors. Meanwhile the Grizzlies have won 7 straight and are now assisting on close to 60% of their baskets while also scoring more ppg than before. What are raptors fans thoughts now that you have gotten to see you what ru di can do. There is no doubt that he can put up points, but at what cost? Paying someone 18 mill a year to someone who shoots under 40 percent is pretty rough


At the time of the trade i thought it was a good move for the Griz. They get a more efficient player who has a lot of playoff experience. They made a big playoff run two years ago without Gay.

I wonder how long it will take for the Raps to get buyers remorse.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:38 PM   #19
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Paul George will be the same exact way.



If you disregard that he is already better than Rudy Gay has ever been at any point.


A guy who plays defense like Paul George does and who rebounds 7.8 a game, in his 3rd year at the 3, despite having to play the 2 earlier in his career? Little chance of that happening.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:43 PM   #20
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It's his 7th year in the NBA. You might want to direct that hope elsewhere. What you see now is what you'll get from Gay.


Not necessarily. Lowry is his Best Friend, as well as a better player. And he's the PG. What Lowry does very well is lead his team, with attitude and a chip on his shoulder, while running an equal opportunity offense.


There is no one better at spreading the floor for his teammates than Lowry. He'll 30 one night and 3 another, while having the same impact. That's absolutely impressive. And even tho Gay is not shooting well, he's actually had some impact so far. And that's because of Lowry.


He isn't going to let Rudy mess up the offense. He's going to put him in spots. I do think that trading DeRozan (which is a lot easier than you realize) might be a good idea. DeRozan does a lot of things well, and he isn't a ball-stopper. He's got a decent midrange, but he's not a particularly good shooter and, with Rudy going ISO the way he does, it might be smart to get rid of DeRozan and try to push Ross into the lineup.
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:46 PM   #21
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Not necessarily. Lowry is his Best Friend, as well as a better player. And he's the PG. What Lowry does very well is lead his team, with attitude and a chip on his shoulder, while running an equal opportunity offense.


There is no one better at spreading the floor for his teammates than Lowry. He'll 30 one night and 3 another, while having the same impact. That's absolutely impressive. And even tho Gay is not shooting well, he's actually had some impact so far. And that's because of Lowry.


He isn't going to let Rudy mess up the offense. He's going to put him in spots. I do think that trading DeRozan (which is a lot easier than you realize) might be a good idea. DeRozan does a lot of things well, and he isn't a ball-stopper. He's got a decent midrange, but he's not a particularly good shooter and, with Rudy going ISO the way he does, it might be smart to get rid of DeRozan and try to push Ross into the lineup.


who would be a good pick up for Toronto in a Derozan trade?
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Old 02-26-2013, 12:50 PM   #22
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who would be a good pick up for Toronto in a Derozan trade?



Now you're asking too many questions lol.


But it is clear you all need a PF to play alongside Valanciunas.
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Old 02-26-2013, 01:18 PM   #23
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Look, he's won 2 games for us with game winners in crunch time, and we've played better since this trade happened, and he's our best wing player since VC.

That being said, he's been extremely inefficient, and has played too much hero ball in the games we've lost. Add in the fact that his bad contract give us little flexibility in the next 2 years, and it makes this a bad trade when you look at the big picture.

Like Q has said, what you see is what you get with this guy. He'll look awesome in some games, and disappear in others.

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Not necessarily. Lowry is his Best Friend, as well as a better player. And he's the PG. What Lowry does very well is lead his team, with attitude and a chip on his shoulder, while running an equal opportunity offense.


There is no one better at spreading the floor for his teammates than Lowry. He'll 30 one night and 3 another, while having the same impact. That's absolutely impressive. And even tho Gay is not shooting well, he's actually had some impact so far. And that's because of Lowry.


He isn't going to let Rudy mess up the offense. He's going to put him in spots. I do think that trading DeRozan (which is a lot easier than you realize) might be a good idea. DeRozan does a lot of things well, and he isn't a ball-stopper. He's got a decent midrange, but he's not a particularly good shooter and, with Rudy going ISO the way he does, it might be smart to get rid of DeRozan and try to push Ross into the lineup.

Not sure if you've been watching Raptors games recently, but our offense has been extremely stagnant. Last night was a prime example. Lowry for the most part has not been doing a good job of running the offense. It's been an isolation heavy offense (This maybe Casey's fault, but still). Gay has routinely messed up the offense with ball hogging tunnel vision.

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Old 02-26-2013, 01:28 PM   #24
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Why he misses so much? Bad shot selection? Depends too much on jumpers? IMO he should play off the ball more often and attack the basket.
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Old 02-26-2013, 01:36 PM   #25
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who would be a good pick up for Toronto in a Derozan trade?

Too bad Toronto didn't keep Ed Davis in the trade. He would have absolutely killed in this lineup.
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Old 02-26-2013, 01:40 PM   #26
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Look, he's won 2 games for us with game winners in crunch time, and we've played better since this trade happened, and he's our best wing player since VC.

That being said, he's been extremely inefficient, and has played too much hero ball in the games we've lost. Add in the fact that his bad contract give us little flexibility in the next 2 years, and it makes this a bad trade when you look at the big picture.

Like Q has said, what you see is what you get with this guy. He'll look awesome in some games, and disappear in others.



Not sure if you've been watching Raptors games recently, but our offense has been extremely stagnant. Last night was a prime example. Lowry for the most part has not been doing a good job of running the offense. It's been an isolation heavy offense. Gay has routinely messed up the offense with ball hogging tunnel vision.


I've seen it as a work in progress, with you guys getting by some games and some talent and stretches of good play. But I also see the potential for the offense. Bargnani must go and Casey has to put together a decent offense. You need a PF who can post up and run the floor. He doesn't have to be a star, but a star would be nice. Could make this team a legit team in the playoffs.
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Old 02-26-2013, 01:42 PM   #27
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Shooting under 40% since being traded to the raptors. Meanwhile the Grizzlies have won 7 straight and are now assisting on close to 60% of their baskets while also scoring more ppg than before. What are raptors fans thoughts now that you have gotten to see you what ru di can do. There is no doubt that he can put up points, but at what cost? Paying someone 18 mill a year to someone who shoots under 40 percent is pretty rough

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he's been bad all year. he was shooting poorly with the Grizzlies too. maybe his all around play makes up for it, but i really think the Raps winning streak is sort of coincidence. i mean they went on a winning streak when Bargs got hurt too and that was with their backups. Rudy getting so much credit for the Raps improvement seems flawed.
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Old 02-26-2013, 01:43 PM   #28
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he's just an average player, been forcing it a lot
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Old 02-26-2013, 02:37 PM   #29
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Rudy is wildly inconsistent, but when he is on he is on. Even when is playing bad offensively he has provided some good defence and rebounding in comparison to our other small forwards.

Its pretty bad when DeRozan is more consistent offensively then Rudy though.
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