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Old 02-26-2013, 03:18 AM   #1
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Seems like no one talks about him when talking about the greatest players ever. Let me remind you of his stats at his prime.

1999-2000:
29.7 PPG, 57% FG, 13.6 RPG, 3.8 APG, 3.0 BPG, 30.6 PER

2000-2001:
28.7 PPG, 57.2% FG, 12.7 RPG, 3.7 APG, 2.8 BPG, 30.2 PER

2001-2002:
27.2 PPG, 57.9% FG, 10.7 RPG, 3.0 APG, 2.0 BPG, 29.7 PER

2002-2003:
27.5 PPG, 57.4% FG, 11.1 RPG, 3.1 APG, 2.4 BPG, 29.5 PER


Now let me remind you of his stats in the 3 finals:

1999-2000:
38.0 PPG, 61.1% FG, 16.7 RPG, 2.3 BPG

2000-2001:
33.0 PPG, 57.3% FG, 15.8 RPG, 4.8 APG, 3.2 BPG

2001-2002:
36.3 PPG, 59.5% FG, 12.3 RPG, 3.8 APG, 2.8 BPG


Let's not forget he's only one of the four players in history to have 3 Finals MVP.



And people are saying Kobe or Duncan's better than the Black Tornado? Most dominant player after Jordan?


Only on ISH.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:30 AM   #2
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Seems like no one talks about him when talking about the greatest players ever. Let me remind you of his stats at his prime.

1999-2000:
29.7 PPG, 57% FG, 13.6 RPG, 3.8 APG, 3.0 BPG, 30.6 PER

2000-2001:
28.7 PPG, 57.2% FG, 12.7 RPG, 3.7 APG, 2.8 BPG, 30.2 PER

2001-2002:
27.2 PPG, 57.9% FG, 10.7 RPG, 3.0 APG, 2.0 BPG, 29.7 PER

2002-2003:
27.5 PPG, 57.4% FG, 11.1 RPG, 3.1 APG, 2.4 BPG, 29.5 PER


Now let me remind you of his stats in the 3 finals:

1999-2000:
38.0 PPG, 61.1% FG, 16.7 RPG, 2.3 BPG

2000-2001:
33.0 PPG, 57.3% FG, 15.8 RPG, 4.8 APG, 3.2 BPG

2001-2002:
36.3 PPG, 59.5% FG, 12.3 RPG, 3.8 APG, 2.8 BPG


Let's not forget he's only one of the four players in history to have 3 Finals MVP.



And people are saying Kobe or Duncan's better than the Black Tornado? Most dominant player after Jordan?


Only on ISH.

cuz kobe won 2 more rings as the guy.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:37 AM   #3
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cuz kobe won 2 more rings as the guy.

What's your argument?

Shaq has 4 rings, won 3 with extremely dominance

Kobe has 5 rings, won 2 with much shittier stats than Shaq
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:45 AM   #4
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Everyone's mad that he sucks on TNT. He's a beast. My favorite player all-time. He turned a team into a contender the moment he was on the floor. period.
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What's your argument?

Shaq has 4 rings, won 3 with extremely dominance

Kobe has 5 rings, won 2 with much shittier stats than Shaq
Shaq was sidekick for one ring ... Same way you tell us Kobe was sidekick all the time.

Kobe's sidekick Pau Gasol isn't better than 2000 Kobe or 2001 Kobe or 2002 Kobe .... So Mamba basically won back to back rings with less star talent than Shaq needed to win.

You could argue Kobe's teams were more well stacked and they might be but its fun using your own ridiculous arguments against you
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Shaquille O'Neal could have been a 4x NBA MVP. (1995, 2001, and 2005). 4x NBA MVP, and 3x Finals MVP = top 5 player of all time.
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Seems like no one talks about him when talking about the greatest players ever. Let me remind you of his stats at his prime.

1999-2000:
29.7 PPG, 57% FG, 13.6 RPG, 3.8 APG, 3.0 BPG, 30.6 PER

2000-2001:
28.7 PPG, 57.2% FG, 12.7 RPG, 3.7 APG, 2.8 BPG, 30.2 PER

2001-2002:
27.2 PPG, 57.9% FG, 10.7 RPG, 3.0 APG, 2.0 BPG, 29.7 PER

2002-2003:
27.5 PPG, 57.4% FG, 11.1 RPG, 3.1 APG, 2.4 BPG, 29.5 PER


Now let me remind you of his stats in the 3 finals:

1999-2000:
38.0 PPG, 61.1% FG, 16.7 RPG, 2.3 BPG

2000-2001:
33.0 PPG, 57.3% FG, 15.8 RPG, 4.8 APG, 3.2 BPG

2001-2002:
36.3 PPG, 59.5% FG, 12.3 RPG, 3.8 APG, 2.8 BPG


Let's not forget he's only one of the four players in history to have 3 Finals MVP.



And people are saying Kobe or Duncan's better than the Black Tornado? Most dominant player after Jordan?


Only on ISH.
I have him tied with Duncan as the second greatest after Jordan. I know most people have Tim anywhere from 9-6. But him and Shaw were equal in my book. Even Shaq considers Tim his equal. Shaq was the most dominant force ever. He was sub par defensively. But his size was a problem in the middle. People forget just how he beat front courts before the tip. He got away with a lot. But if you play in the paint you have to be ready for that shit. It's a big man's game in there. Shaq is my number two greatest player ever. He's underrated when people put him out of their top 7. It's ****ing criminal.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:52 AM   #8
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The problem with Shaq is he did it at a time where there were no great centers. He didn't win it in Orlando with a very good supporting cast. Plus his team was swept so many times before the threepeat.
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Old 02-26-2013, 04:22 AM   #9
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Duncan's never been as dominant as Shaq IMO.. Shaq was flat out unstoppable at times but Duncan was more consistant over a long stretch of time.. and with less weaknesses in his game.. ie shooting and FT shooting.
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The problem with Shaq is he did it at a time where there were no great centers. He didn't win it in Orlando with a very good supporting cast. Plus his team was swept so many times before the threepeat.



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Shaq was sidekick for one ring ... Same way you tell us Kobe was sidekick all the time.

Kobe's sidekick Pau Gasol isn't better than 2000 Kobe or 2001 Kobe or 2002 Kobe .... So Mamba basically won back to back rings with less star talent than Shaq needed to win.

You could argue Kobe's teams were more well stacked and they might be but its fun using your own ridiculous arguments against you

Dude. this is assinine. What team spends more money on players than any other in the league? For the entire history of the league? Lakers.

What team has Kobe always been on? The team spending the most money(i didnt look up who is number 1 but obviously itd be the celts or lakers). So i mean dude... GTFO with this stupid crap.
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Shaq helped bring the Heat their first title. I will always love Shaq. I still have his jersey.
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if he didnt have such a bad attitude and decided to play more than 60 games in the regular season he would easily be top 4 all time. i loved his game, my first ever favorite player. but his work ethic was terrible, however i haven't seen anyone have such an impact on the game.
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I don't think people underrate Shaq. Pretty much everyone knows he was unstoppable.

Most people on ISH think the 00s Lakers are the best team in NBA history.
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Prime Shaq is BY FAR THE MOST DOMINANT PLAYER I HAVE SEEN.
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