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Old 09-09-2009, 01:01 AM   #1
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Default Is it safe to say Bird "owned" Jordan?

I mean just look at the '87-'88 stretch where they matched up 10 times in the season and once in the playoffs. Both were healthy and MVP caliber players so no excuses for either player...


11/14/86
Bird - 37/10/5 (13/25 shooting)
Jordan - 48/5/1 (17/33 shooting)

Celtics win, I'd say it's a wash though.

01/02/87
Bird - 37/8/9 (61.1%)
Jordan - 34/8/3 (41.9%)

Celtics win, Bird easily wins the matchup. Highlights of the game here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ChmRhlFzk0. As you can see Jordan made a pitiful attempt at guarding him.

27/01/87
Bird - 24/14/3 (39%)
Jordan - 30/6/4 (38%)

Celtics win. Wash.

28/01/87
Bird - 26/5/9 (65%)
Jordan - 27/4/4 (48%)
Celtics win. Bird wins matchup.

27/03/87
Bird - 41/7/7 (58.6%)
Jordan - 22/7/7 (39.1%)

Celtics win. Bird easily wins matchup. Highlights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zk1vWGxEXo

17/04/87
Bird - 38/8/7 (59%)
Jordan - 17/4/8 (33%)

Celtics win. Bird easily wins matchup. Highlights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEaNw...e=channel_page

12/01/88
Bird - 38/9/8 (58%)
Jordan - 42/4/6 (53%)

Celtics win. Bird wins matchup.

18/03/88
Bird - 19/10/6
Jordan - 50/9/5

Bulls win. Jordan finally wins head to head.

20/03/88
Bird - 33/7/8 (67%)
Jordan - 26/4/7 (56%)

Celtics win. Bird easily wins matchup. Highlights: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp0NMFf9Dkg

21/04/88
Bird - 44/10/3 (65.5%)
Jordan - 39/3/8 (51.5%)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdMjK-60H-k

Celtics win. Bird wins matchup *yawn*


Bird's record in this stretch? 9-1 while outperforming him in nearly every game. What makes this worse? Bird made Jordan look like a child when Jordan tried to guard him. Meanwhile the possessions I saw Bird guard Jordan, he defended him quite well (definitly wasn't gambling for steals to leave him open in the post).

Moreover, Jordan is 0-6 in the playoffs including this disaster in '87: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RVMJSCTj5Y (Jordan makes 0 shots in the 4th quarter...Bulls had a 7 point lead with 11 minutes left...but Bird showed up when it mattered while Jordan was no where to be seen)

Kind of makes Jordan's '88 MVP come off as even more of a joke, no? Not that I really care but all you really hear about is the 63 points.

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Old 09-09-2009, 01:07 AM   #2
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The Jordan stans won't be happy.
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Old 09-09-2009, 01:08 AM   #3
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Yes but no one will say that.....MJ is GOD
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Old 09-09-2009, 01:08 AM   #4
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Cumulative stats?
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Old 09-09-2009, 01:08 AM   #5
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LMAO @ the agenda.
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Old 09-09-2009, 01:09 AM   #6
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Old 09-09-2009, 01:10 AM   #7
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LMAO @ the agenda.
Jordan is actually his favorite player, as is Pippen, West, Bird, Abdul-Jabbar, Roy, & Chamberlain.
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Old 09-09-2009, 01:11 AM   #8
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Yes Bird owned MJ. I agree 100000000%
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Old 09-09-2009, 01:12 AM   #9
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Why do people insist on comparing players that never actually went head to head when their teams played each other? You can probably count on one hand the number of times they were matched up against one another.
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Old 09-09-2009, 01:14 AM   #10
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And I would also agree Bird outplayed MJ from '86-'88.
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Old 09-09-2009, 01:26 AM   #11
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Old 09-09-2009, 01:27 AM   #12
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No it's not safe to say that.

It's a fair observation though.
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Old 09-09-2009, 01:29 AM   #13
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Let's just ignore the fact that the entire Celtic defense was concerned only with Jordan, while the Bulls defense had to be concerned with numerous weapons for the Celts (Parish, McHale, Ainge, DJ etc.).
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Let's just ignore the fact that the entire Celtic defense was concerned only with Jordan, while the Bulls defense had to be concerned with numerous weapons for the Celts (Parish, McHale, Ainge, DJ etc.).
Don't man. Most people are aware of the always biased presentation of this guy, so it's better to ignore it than to start up useless discussions.
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LMAO @ the agenda.

for a guy who typically turns to stats to make his arguments you seem to be a few numbers short this time? You not going to rebut?
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