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Old 05-13-2013, 07:57 PM   #181
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I think its pretty clear why. The CIA was pissed about shit that got leaked concerning a strike on terrorists and wanted to know who the leak was.
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DOJ Seizes AP Reporters' Phone Records, Won't Say Why

Here's the full AP story.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/govt-...-records-probe

Seems like it involves an operation against the main bombmaker for Al Qaeda in the Arabian Pennisula, Ibrahim_al-Asiri. al-Asiri is the guy who made the underwear bomb and the printer cartridges bomb. His own brother tried to kill the Saudi security chief using one of his bombs.

Somebody leaked to the AP that we foiled another underwear bomb plot. A couple of days later, articles like this one appeared saying that Saudi Arabia had a double agent inside Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-18000351
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/08/world/...lot/index.html
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:13 PM   #183
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I think its pretty clear why. The CIA was pissed about shit that got leaked concerning a strike on terrorists and wanted to know who the leak was.

The headline on the AP story is less sensational.
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One of the problems going forward with with online journalism is "linkbait." Using Web Analytics and Marketing tools like A/B testing, websites can determine which headline is going to cause the most clicks. You can look at Google News and see who is using which headline
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:18 PM   #184
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You can compare this
Government subpoenas, obtains wide set of AP phone records in investigation
to this
DOJ Unconcerned About The Constitution, Obtained AP Reporters' Phone Records
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:24 PM   #185
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This seems to be the original AP article. They had him as a double agent a story the next, though they say he worked for the CIA.
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/...-past-3-years/
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Old 05-13-2013, 09:08 PM   #186
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4 in 10 Republicans think Benghazi is the biggest political scandal in American history. Of those Republicans 4 in 10 don't know where Benghazi is.
http://www.upi.com/blog/2013/05/13/P...7321368469022/

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Last week, Sen. James Inhofe said in an interview that, “Of all the great cover-ups in history -- the Pentagon papers, Iran-Contra, Watergate, all the rest of them -- this ... is going to go down as most egregious cover-up in American history." He further suggested President Obama could be impeached over it.

PPP put that question to voters. 41 percent of Republicans say they consider this to be the "biggest political scandal in American history" compared to only 43 percent who disagree. Only 10 percent of Democrats and 20 percent of independents agreed.

Of the 41 percent of Republicans who consider Benghazi to be the worst political scandal in American history, 39 percent are unaware that Benghazi is located in Libya. 10 percent said it's in Egypt, 9 percent in Iran, 6 percent in Cuba, 5 percent in Syria, 4 percent in Iraq, and 1 percent each in North Korea and Liberia, with 4 percent unwilling to venture a guess.

Voters trust Hillary Clinton over Congressional Republicans on the issue of Benghazi by a 49/39 margin and her favorability rating shows no signs of decline at 52 percent versus 44 percent unfavorable. Congressional Republicans remain unpopular with a 36/57 favorability rating.

By a 56/38 margin voters say passing a comprehensive immigration reform bill is more important, and by a 52/43 spread they think passing gun background checks should be a higher priority than Benghazi.
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4 in 10 Republicans think Benghazi is the biggest political scandal in American history. Of those Republicans 4 in 10 don't know where Benghazi is.
http://www.upi.com/blog/2013/05/13/P...7321368469022/

Biased poll.
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Old 05-14-2013, 12:22 AM   #188
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Biased poll.
Longhorn takes the bait again. Swing and a miss. You don't have to swing at every pitch you know.

Also Google and Wikipedia are your friends
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PPP first entered prominence through its performance in the 2008 Democratic primaries between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. The company performed very well, producing extremely accurate predictions in many states ranging from South Carolina to Wisconsin, many of which featured inaccurate results by other pollsters.[
After the November election, PPP was ranked by the Wall Street Journal as one of the two most accurate firms, among those who were most active in the presidential swing states.

2010
PPP was the first pollster to find Scott Brown with a lead over Martha Coakley in the Massachusetts Senate special election; Brown ultimately won in what was considered an upset, and PPP's final poll in that race predicted Brown's winning margin exactly.

2011
PPP was praised for its accuracy in polling primaries and special elections, which are notoriously hard to predict. The contests they accurately predicted include the West Virginia gubernatorial primaries, special elections in New York and California, as well as all eight Wisconsin recall elections.

2012
A study by Fordham University found that, of 28 firms studied, PPP had the most accurate poll on the presidential national popular vote, both its independently conducted poll and the one it does in collaboration with Daily Kos and the SEIU. PPP correctly called the winner of the presidential election in all 19 states it polled in the final week of the election, as well as the winners of all the U.S. Senate and gubernatorial races it surveyed.

Does work for Daily Kos and SEIU. Is Highly Accurate.
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Old 05-14-2013, 01:36 AM   #189
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Q: *Where is Benghazi?

By political ideology:

Libya -*Very liberal: *55%, Somewhat liberal: *43%, Moderate: *55%, Somewhat conservative: *67%, Very conservative: *74%

By party affiliation:

Libya - Democrat: *49%, Republican: *60%, Independent/other: *68%


Go to sleep, Kevin . Do a little research.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/p...onal_51313.pdf
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:40 PM   #190
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CBO has revised its deficit numbers even lower.

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If the current laws* that govern federal taxes and spending do not change, the budget deficit will shrink this year to $642 billion, CBO estimates, the smallest shortfall since 2008. Relative to the size of the economy, the deficit this year—at 4.0 percent of gross domestic product (GDP)—will be less than half as large as the shortfall in 2009, which was 10.1 percent of GDP.

Because revenues, under current law, are projected to rise more rapidly than spending in the next two years, deficits in CBO’s baseline projections continue to shrink, falling to 2.1 percent of GDP by 2015.


This is pretty astounding. This is the fourth fiscal year under Obama (2009 was the 8th fiscal year under Bush). In that time the deficit has been cut in half.

While it's useful as a political weapon, it also may be the wrong policy. If we spent more and didn't lay off so many government workers, we might be doing much better on the employment front which would mean more kids out of college could be productively building their careers.


*Current law includes sequestration cuts.
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Old 05-14-2013, 08:44 PM   #191
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Q: *Where is Benghazi?

By political ideology:

Libya -*Very liberal: *55%, Somewhat liberal: *43%, Moderate: *55%, Somewhat conservative: *67%, Very conservative: *74%

By party affiliation:

Libya - Democrat: *49%, Republican: *60%, Independent/other: *68%


Go to sleep, Kevin . Do a little research.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/p...onal_51313.pdf
So now PPP is accurate? Also, you're not doing an apples to apples comparison. First off, Benghazi is a republican obsession and it's not suprising that more republicans are generally aware of it than Democrats, secondly you're comparing the general pool of voters to the pool that expressed the opinion that Benghazi is the worst scandal in American history. So you're comparing different things. I'll give you a B+ on this one.
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Old 05-14-2013, 11:13 PM   #192
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So many controversies right now, what the hell
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So many controversies right now, what the hell

Pew just did a poll, pretty much right before these hit and Obama's approval was 51%.
May 1-5, 2013 51 43

Wondering what it will look like in 6 months. So mark this page and check back in November.

I don't think the Benghazi thing is going to resonate much in 6 months. I think the AP and the IRS thing are more likely to still be an issue in 6 months.
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Also overshadowed by the bigger news is this political nugget.

The head of Hispanic Outreach for the GOP in Florida quit today. Also he became a Democrat.
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First off, Benghazi is a republican obsession and it's not suprising that more republicans are generally aware of it than Democrats,


Says who?? Biased Liberals? No f'n doubt. If anything, it was a travesty that Liberal media outlets didn't cover it as much. Democrats are well aware of it, they are just choosing to ignore it as it tarnishes their Democratic leaders. Look at the hearing by the whistle-blowers. Every Dem Representative used their time to defend Hillary and completely ignored what the three of them had to say. They think this is an attack on Hillary.....please.
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