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Old 05-21-2013, 06:25 PM   #211
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I have been defending Barry on this scandal, but this doesn't look good.

No it doesn't.

She is probably trying to get immunity. There's a Democrat from Queens who is saying she lied to him about this two days before she revealed this story.

She revealed it by having a friend ask her a question at a speech she was giving. Washington Post's Fact Checker gave her Four Pinocchios
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Lerner then contacted a friend, Celia Roady, a tax attorney with the Washington firm Morgan Lewis, to get her to ask a question about the targeting, according to a statement by Roady on Friday. (Roady had previously denied this was a planted question when asked directly by participants at the meeting.)
So Lerner was dissembling when she suggested that a simple well-aimed question prompted the disclosure.
In fact, just two days before the ABA conference, Lerner appeared before Congress and was asked by Rep. Joseph Crowley (D-N.Y.) about the status of investigations into 501(c)(4) groups. She provided a bland answer about a questionnaire on the IRS Web site, failing to take the opportunity to disclose the results of the probe. Small wonder that Crowley is now calling for her to resign, saying that Lerner lied to him.
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:29 PM   #212
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Interesting take on the AP case by a long time national security reporter
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But how many times can the media claim such an action is “chilling sources?” That was a claim during the Valerie Plame case under the Bush administration and repeatedly invoked as the Obama Justice Department has pursued leakers.

The risk of breaking the law apparently didn’t chill those who leaked the information to the AP. That’s what should be considered chilling.

The reality is that this is not a whistleblowing case. There are no heroes here, and the press in this instance was not protecting individuals trying to expose government malfeasance.
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Old 05-21-2013, 11:44 PM   #213
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i don't follow this stuff too much, but one thing i'm not very clear on-- is it realistic that hillary and bill return to the white house next term?

he almost died, she must be a bit burned out by now, and they're both getting older. i mean, with so many opportunities for them to make a difference across a spectrum of areas, do they really want to spend themselves to the bone on another high-stakes extended dance?

OTOH, do the dems have anyone else remotely ready?
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:53 AM   #214
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i don't follow this stuff too much, but one thing i'm not very clear on-- is it realistic that hillary and bill return to the white house next term?

he almost died, she must be a bit burned out by now, and they're both getting older. i mean, with so many opportunities for them to make a difference across a spectrum of areas, do they really want to spend themselves to the bone on another high-stakes extended dance?

OTOH, do the dems have anyone else remotely ready?


It depends how far these scandal hearings go. Right now it looks like they might impact some congressional elections, but by the time the presidential primaries roll around there's a good chance they will be done with and forgotten and Obama will have had time to put some distance between them and anyone associated with his administrations (Biden, Clinton, etc.).

Otherwise Al Gore maybe?
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:03 AM   #215
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i don't follow this stuff too much, but one thing i'm not very clear on-- is it realistic that hillary and bill return to the white house next term?

he almost died, she must be a bit burned out by now, and they're both getting older. i mean, with so many opportunities for them to make a difference across a spectrum of areas, do they really want to spend themselves to the bone on another high-stakes extended dance?

OTOH, do the dems have anyone else remotely ready?
BIDEN!

But yes, Hillary definitely does want to become President. Is your question, do they want to do this? The answer is yes. If the question is will she win, that remains to be seen.

She is definitely running though. A lot of Democrats were happy that she just got rid of some bad staff from 2008. http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifest...767_story.html
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:17 PM   #216
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Wow.

Man with ties to Boston bombing suspect shot during FBI questioning
https://www.google.com/news?ncl=dDGS...n glish&hl=en
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:24 PM   #217
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Lois Lerner plead the fifth.


Big Article looking into what was going on in the emails discussing Benghazi talking points and General Petraeus's involvement, there was not only a fight between the CIA and the State Department. There was disagreement within the CIA with a couple of folks objecting to what Petraeus wanted.
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Old 05-22-2013, 04:31 PM   #218
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In a First, U.S. Admits Drones Have Killed 4 Americans



http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/23/us...kes.html?_r=1&
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Old 05-22-2013, 04:54 PM   #219
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In a First, U.S. Admits Drones Have Killed 4 Americans
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/23/us...kes.html?_r=1&

Obama's giving a speech on drones and Guantanamo tomorrow.
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Old 05-22-2013, 04:58 PM   #220
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Obama's giving a speech on drones and Guantanamo tomorrow.

I'll be interested in that.


On a side note, it looks like Anthony Foxx is sailing through confirmation as transportation secretary.
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Old 05-22-2013, 06:06 PM   #221
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I'll be interested in that.


On a side note, it looks like Anthony Foxx is sailing through confirmation as transportation secretary.
Was there any issue with him, I haven't even heard of him. I had heard the Labor guy was having issues.
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Eric Holder on drone strikes

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In his letter to Congressional leaders, Mr. Holder confirmed that the administration had deliberately killed Anwar al-Awlaki, a radical Muslim cleric who died in a drone strike in September 2011 in Yemen. Mr. Holder also wrote that United States forces had killed three other Americans who “were not specifically targeted.”

Most americans never really consider the FACT that MANY innocent muslim children have been blown to shreds in these drone strikes.

This administration thinks that it is acceptable to kill children in their search for "millitants" as long as the children are collateral damage and "not specifically targeted". Think about that for a minute. Think about what it would feel like if a foreign country was bombing seemingly random locations in your neighborhood in the name of killing "terrorists".

Countless Americans are unable to understand why so many muslims continue to hate the US. I think its pretty damn obvious.

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Old 05-22-2013, 11:36 PM   #223
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Default Anthony Weiner whips it out at midnight.

His NYC mayoral candidacy that is. And thus avoided having the tabloids make the kind of puns I just did.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2....php?ref=fpblg
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By launching his bid via a video posted on his website around midnight Wednesday Weiner prevented the New York Daily News and New York Post from featuring him and lewd puns on their covers, leaving staffers at the papers convinced it was a deliberate dodge.

If you have to launch your candidacy at midnight, how successful do you think it will be? Perhaps he will uncover a mighty vein (see I did it again) of voters who like to send dick pics. The "sexy-selfie" set might be a huge block of untapped photos just waiting for a leader.
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Old 05-23-2013, 01:20 AM   #224
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In a First, U.S. Admits Drones Have Killed 4 Americans
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/23/us...kes.html?_r=1&

I think it was known, not widely known, that three Americans were killed in the two al-Awalaki attacks. There was an American, Samir Khan, with al-Awalaki when he was killed. He was a member of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. He also wrote an article in Al Qaeda's online magazine about how to make pressure cooker bombs and how to murder government workers

The third al-Awalaki's son who was not a terrorist. That was just a screwup.

The fourth guy is from Raleigh.

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Old 05-23-2013, 01:49 AM   #225
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I think it was known, not widely known, that three Americans were killed in the two al-Awalaki attacks. There was an American, Samir Khan, with al-Awalaki when he was killed. He was a member of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. He also wrote an article in Al Qaeda's online magazine about how to make pressure cooker bombs and how to murder government workers

The third al-Awalaki's son who was not a terrorist. That was just a screwup.

The fourth guy is from Raleigh.

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NY Times has an article up on the 4th man. He was killed in a signature strike in South Waziristan.
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