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Old 03-07-2013, 08:41 PM   #46
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Why are drones so disagreeable now? They're more versatile than long range missiles, and it's a hell of a lot better then sending in ground troops. Civilians getting killed is unfortunate, but that's not exactly a new issue.
It's more so the government having the ability to attack it's own citizens at anytime is the real reason. I'm glad the issue is being raised, although I dislike that it's by Rand Paul. No one gives a shit when we attack overseas countries, because they're all turrists!
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Old 03-07-2013, 08:49 PM   #47
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They were disagreeable by Obama supporters under Bush but turn the other way when Obama does it.

Plus they are being used on american citizens without a trial. And Bush killed citizens in Iraq in a country we had no business being in and Obama railed him for it. He's now doing the same thing in similar countries yet Obama supporters don't bat an eye. KevinNYC is blatantly ignoring it.

What are you talking about???

the left has been just as disagreeable about drones. I don't really want to classify them as left but there are a lot of individuals who are identified as leftist that expressed concern about drone strikes.
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He's now doing the same thing in similar countries yet Obama supporters don't bat an eye. KevinNYC is blatantly ignoring it.

I've never discussed the drone program? Balla, are you just being intellectually-dishonest or have you not read the thread you are posting in?

Read this thread again and tell me I ignore the drone program.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:09 AM   #49
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It's more so the government having the ability to attack it's own citizens at anytime

Rose, there's a fallacy at the heart of what you said. Think about the above and see if you can recognize it. I think this fallacy clouds a lot of the discussion on drones.
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Old 03-08-2013, 01:17 AM   #50
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This guy is going to be in a federal court about a mile from where I work.

I might try to go over there, if I can find out when it scheduled for.
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I don't think it has to be everyone who agrees on it to be centrist position.

You do bring up good points though and part of the problem is left-right doesn't really capture all the dimensions of politics. Nazis and Communists believe in the murder of their political enemies while Republicans and Democrats generally do not. So how do you rate them? by their acceptance of political murder or their support of nationalism? or their support of social programs.

I like the 4 quadrant system that is used on sites like politicalcompass.org

Left/right doesn't really capture everything.
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The last word had a good bit on Sen. Paul's paranoia
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/45755883/n...rd/vp/51092205

I think my favorite bit was that the government was going to kill you if had more than 7 days of food in your house. Yes. he said that.

He actually made John McCain and Lindsay Graham look wise yesterday.
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It's more so the government having the ability to attack it's own citizens at anytime is the real reason.

Luckily for our sake, power has never been abused in the history of mankind
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Also in the last two week, two of three biggest Obama political strategist have quit the administration and joined MSNBC.
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Old 03-08-2013, 02:51 AM   #55
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Also in the last two week, two of three biggest Obama political strategist have quit the administration and joined MSNBC.


So they got promoted then
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Old 03-08-2013, 04:17 AM   #56
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So they got promoted then

That's pretty good.

You also wonder who they will favor in a Biden-Clinton race in 2016
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Old 03-08-2013, 04:26 AM   #57
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Elizabeth Warren continues to push for bankers to get jail time for money laundering.

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"If you're caught with an ounce of cocaine, the chances are good you're going to jail. If it happens repeatedly, you may go to jail for the rest of your life," an exasperated Warren said, as she wrapped up her questioning. "But evidently, if you launder nearly a billion dollars for drug cartels and violate our international sanctions, your company pays a fine and you go home and sleep in your own bed at night - every single individual associated with this - and I just think that's fundamentally wrong."
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Rand Paul said this on twitter yesterday
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The President is advocating a drone strike program in America.

It's pretty clearly false and Politifact ruled it false.
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We asked the White House for its response to Paul’s assertion that the president was "advocating a drone strike program in America."

"On the record, that claim is false," said Caitlin Hayden, spokesperson for the National Security Council...............


We reviewed earlier Brennan speeches — such as the one in which he acknowledged the government’s overseas drone program — as well as speeches and news briefings by Obama and his press secretaries Robert Gibbs and Jay Carney.

We found nothing to indicate the administration was "advocating" domestic drone strikes. The most direct statements we saw from the administration on the idea of domestic drone strikes came from Brennan’s nomination testimony and Holder’s letters.

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We also asked eight experts in drone-strike policy and law whether they thought Paul was correct that the Obama administration was "advocating a drone strike program in America." None of them did.
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Old 03-08-2013, 08:05 AM   #59
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Rose, there's a fallacy at the heart of what you said. Think about the above and see if you can recognize it. I think this fallacy clouds a lot of the discussion on drones.
I referred to the government as it?

Whether or not a president ever uses drones on Americans is one thing. The fact that they think the constitution allows them to is another. Generally speaking I'll defend the democrats more than the republicans. But this is terrible, and one of the times I'm glad someone is talking about it even if it is Rand. Hell even if it may be an attempt to squash stories about the effects of the sequester. I didn't like it when we did it to so called terrorists either, for the exact same reasons.
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Rand Paul said this on twitter yesterday

It's pretty clearly false and Politifact ruled it false.

First Response from Eric Holder:

“It is possible, I suppose, to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate under the Constitution and applicable laws of the United States for the President to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States,” Holder replied in a letter yesterday to Paul’s question about whether Obama “has the power to authorize lethal force, such as a drone strike, against a U.S. citizen on U.S. soil, and without trial.”

"U.S. Citizen" (The words non-combatant are NOT in there)


Second Letter from Holder AFTER Filibuster

The Attorney General

Washington, D.C. March 7, 2013

The Honorable Rand Paul United States Senate Washington, DC 20510

Dear Senator Paul:

It has come to my attention that you have now asked an additional question: “Does the President have the authority to use a weaponized drone to kill an American not engaged in combat on American soil?” The answer to that question is no.

Eric H. Holder, Jr.

So maybe they are not advocating it, but when asked if they could, they replied with gobbledygook instead of just saying no.
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