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Old 04-03-2013, 05:45 PM   #106
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Ben Carson lost me after comparing gays to animals.

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Old 04-03-2013, 06:58 PM   #107
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chris hedges does an excellent job explaining the tragedy of fake liberals like kevinnyc


-The rewriting of history by the power elite was painfully evident as the nation marked the 10th anniversary of the start of the Iraq War. Some claimed they had opposed the war when they had not. Others among “Bush’s useful idiots” argued that they had merely acted in good faith on the information available; if they had known then what they know now, they assured us, they would have acted differently. This, of course, is false. The war boosters, especially the “liberal hawks”—who included Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer, Al Franken and John Kerry, along with academics, writers and journalists such as Bill Keller, Michael Ignatieff, Nicholas Kristof, David Remnick, Fareed Zakaria, Michael Walzer, Paul Berman, Thomas Friedman, George Packer, Anne-Marie Slaughter, Kanan Makiya and the late Christopher Hitchens—did what they always have done: engage in acts of self-preservation. To oppose the war would have been a career killer. And they knew it.

These apologists, however, acted not only as cheerleaders for war; in most cases they ridiculed and attempted to discredit anyone who questioned the call to invade Iraq. Kristof, in The New York Times, attacked the filmmaker Michael Moore as a conspiracy theorist and wrote that anti-war voices were only polarizing what he termed “the political cesspool.” Hitchens said that those who opposed the attack on Iraq “do not think that Saddam Hussein is a bad guy at all.” He called the typical anti-war protester a “blithering ex-flower child or ranting neo-Stalinist.” The halfhearted mea culpas by many of these courtiers a decade later always fail to mention the most pernicious and fundamental role they played in the buildup to the war—shutting down public debate. Those of us who spoke out against the war, faced with the onslaught of right-wing “patriots” and their liberal apologists, became pariahs. In my case it did not matter that I was an Arabic speaker. It did not matter that I had spent seven years in the Middle East, including months in Iraq, as a foreign correspondent. It did not matter that I knew the instrument of war. The critique that I and other opponents of war delivered, no matter how well grounded in fact and experience, turned us into objects of scorn by a liberal elite that cravenly wanted to demonstrate its own “patriotism” and “realism” about national security. The liberal class fueled a rabid, irrational hatred of all war critics. Many of us received death threats and lost our jobs, for me one at The New York Times. These liberal warmongers, 10 years later, remain both clueless about their moral bankruptcy and cloyingly sanctimonious. They have the blood of hundreds of thousands of innocents on their hands

.....Those who doggedly challenge the orthodoxy of belief, who question the reigning political passions, who refuse to sacrifice their integrity to serve the cult of power, are pushed to the margins. They are denounced by the very people who, years later, will often claim these moral battles as their own. It is only the outcasts and the rebels who keep truth and intellectual inquiry alive. They alone name the crimes of the state. They alone give a voice to the victims of oppression. They alone ask the difficult questions. Most important, they expose the powerful, along with their liberal apologists, for what they are.

the article continues: http://www.truthdig.com/report/print...uals_20130331/

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Old 04-03-2013, 11:53 PM   #108
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A lot of the people you mention were not liberals. You may need to broaden your understanding of political identities.

Particularly Christopher Hitchens. His earlier political incarnation was a Trotskyite not a liberal.

Fareed Zakaria was a member of the most conservative party in the Yale Political Union.

Kanan Makiya, being an Iraqi exile, was pretty much a one issue voter and would have gone with whoever wanted to invade Iraq. However, he also, was another Trotskyite.

Also, personally, I opposed the invasion of Iraq.
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Also, personally, I opposed the invasion of Iraq.


just like how you "oppose" obamas nobel peace drone program..... right???
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Ben Carson lost me after comparing gays to animals.

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Gays are animals.



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http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/05/politi...get/index.html


Obama puts Medicare and Social Security on table in his new budget.


I would accept this deal.



Jobs report was terrible.
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Jobs report was terrible.

I wonder if this was sequester related. Some folks are saying the expiration of the payroll tax cuts are already being felt in the retail sector.

Has anybody been seeing this reports that Walmarts are having bare shelves? Seems they cut back on employees during this downturn.
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Old 04-05-2013, 01:32 PM   #113
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/0...get-Plan-Offer


Liberals are having a melt down.
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Old 04-05-2013, 02:52 PM   #114
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A lot of these jobs aren't coming back, ever. We might lose 2 billion of them in the next 20 years. Eventually just about every job is going to disappear.

As a society we have to come up with a better means of judging a person's worth than the scale, scope, and persistence of the menial drudgery they toil away at day after day.

"Job creators" are mostly a myth, job destroyers are leading the way. And ultimately it's a good thing.
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Klein and Finney >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hayes and Kornacki.

My wife came in the house over the weekend and said "Who's that guy with round face and glasses on MSNBC?

Chris Hayes?

Yeah, I think he's right in front of our house.
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GOP comes out in favor of ammunition control and introduce the the Ammunition Management for More Obtainability (AMMO) Act. Yes, that is the name of the Act.

Click the link to see the twist in this story.
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Sandra Day O'Connor is having second thoughts, perhaps the Supreme Court shouldn't have stepped into Bush v Gore.
Now you tell us.
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We're giving big bags of cash to Hamid Karzai and so are the Iranians
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For more than a decade, wads of American dollars packed into suitcases, backpacks and, on occasion, plastic shopping bags have been dropped off every month or so at the offices of Afghanistan’s president — courtesy of the Central Intelligence Agency......

Payments ordinarily range from hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars, the officials said, though none could provide exact figures. The money is used to cover a slew of off-the-books expenses, like paying off lawmakers or underwriting delicate diplomatic trips or informal negotiations.

Much of it also still goes to keeping old warlords in line. One is Abdul Rashid Dostum, an ethnic Uzbek whose militia served as a C.I.A. proxy force in 2001. He receives nearly $100,000 a month from the palace, two Afghan officials said. Other officials said the amount was significantly lower.

Mr. Dostum, who declined requests for comment, had previously said he was given $80,000 a month to serve as Mr. Karzai’s emissary in northern Afghanistan. “I asked for a year up front in cash so that I could build my dream house,”

Hey Congress, Bring back the Boland Ammendment

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More funding needed to prevent ObamaCare from becoming 'train wreck'

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