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Old 03-10-2013, 06:16 AM   #16
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Default Re: Knicks fans have been saying that Knicks are the worst team in the NBA without Melo

This game and the Miami win were obviously flukes.

The problem with the Knicks is that JR and Felton while talented are inconsistent, in fact completely unreliable. Amare was big in the other games this week. If he's playing well, well that gives you a lot of what Melo does in terms of being able to draw doubles.

I said they were a true superteam and most dynamic roster, and if healthy they are. But the only 2 consistent scorers are Melo and Amare.

Defensively, they've been playing well for the past couple of weeks after a stretch where every guard in the league were killing them, and I thought they were about ready for a nice little streak. This defensive increase coincides directly with Iman Shumpert playing more comfortably and better defensively. Kenyon Martin and now Camby returning obviously helps their defense too, and these are their first 2 games with the team in a while.

I made my thread about them ripping through the East after a close loss to the Kings without Carmelo playing. So I believe in the supporting cast, but that's what they are...a bunch of role players outside of Carmelo and in a perfect world Amare.

I think with Carmelo they're still good enough to make it out of the first round, maybe good enough to get to the ECF...but would have to shoot 3s at a sick level to of course beat the Heat (defense at as sick a level too). I think with these knee injuries, it's been proven that it takes at least 2 1/2 months to even resemble yourself. And even if Amare does play (and i think he'll be out there as soon as the doctors clear him, even if it means he'll need another knee surgery in the offseason because that's just the way he is) he won't be an impact player to the 2nd round at best.

Really unfortunate, feel bad for Amare. Truly a good guy, one of the hardest workers in the league too. What he has come back with in terms of a post game after one offseason may be as big an improvement in the post as any in the history of the game. He could score in the post previously, but didn't understand positioning, counters, or have proper footwork. He may now have one of the better post games in the league, and if he were able to actually play this season without the first surgery, who knows what would've been in store with Melo/Tyson/and Amare/Felton and JR possibly having some of their better seasons in the league...I think the league has been cheated from a dominant resurgent year from the Knicks. We'll see what they can muster up in the postseason, at least Amare can make it back.

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Old 03-10-2013, 09:17 AM   #17
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Default Re: Knicks fans have been saying that Knicks are the worst team in the NBA without Melo

They clearly are not better without Melo, but when Melo is out, other parts of their game pick up. They pass better because they know they have to. The defense tries harder and typically is better, because Melo is below average defender....so they can make up for Melo's absence in other ways.

But when the playoffs come, if you think Knicks won't miss Melo, you are delusional.
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Old 03-10-2013, 09:25 AM   #18
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Default Re: Knicks fans have been saying that Knicks are the worst team in the NBA without Melo

we dont suck, but we arent elite either
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Old 03-10-2013, 10:47 AM   #19
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Default Re: Knicks fans have been saying that Knicks are the worst team in the NBA without Melo

Knicks fans never say this. OP is a ***.
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Old 03-10-2013, 12:27 PM   #20
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Default Re: Knicks fans have been saying that Knicks are the worst team in the NBA without Melo

Only thing I've seen Knicks fans say is that Melo doesn't have as much help as other stars playing on contenders. Which is nothing short of fact though.


I mean let's be real. Tyson Chandler would be maybe the 4th or 5th best player on OKC, and 4th for the Heat. In comparison to those teams yes Melo is carrying the Knicks since Amare went out to begin the year.
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Old 03-10-2013, 01:06 PM   #21
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Default Re: Knicks fans have been saying that Knicks are the worst team in the NBA without Melo

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They clearly are not better without Melo, but when Melo is out, other parts of their game pick up. They pass better because they know they have to. The defense tries harder and typically is better, because Melo is below average defender....so they can make up for Melo's absence in other ways.

But when the playoffs come, if you think Knicks won't miss Melo, you are delusional.
I agree. Losing in the first round without Melo just won't feel right.
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Old 03-10-2013, 01:09 PM   #22
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Default Re: Knicks fans have been saying that Knicks are the worst team in the NBA without Melo

It's a good team, but they wouldn't have even made the playoffs without Melo. With either a healthy Melo OR Amare, though they're talented enough to make it to the 2nd round in the East though.

They have to become a team where their defense leads them though, specifically the guards
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Default Re: Knicks fans have been saying that Knicks are the worst team in the NBA without Melo

All I saw knicks fans say was "we da bess"
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Default Re: Knicks fans have been saying that Knicks are the worst team in the NBA without Melo

Can you point out who said this?
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Old 03-10-2013, 02:11 PM   #25
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Default Re: Knicks fans have been saying that Knicks are the worst team in the NBA without Melo

dumb OP making shit up. congrats your mom gave you a computer to troll on the internet
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Default Re: Knicks fans have been saying that Knicks are the worst team in the NBA without Melo

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Old 03-10-2013, 06:08 PM   #27
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Default Re: Knicks fans have been saying that Knicks are the worst team in the NBA without Melo

Knicks obviously wouldn't be the worst team in the NBA and I've never heard anyone say that, but I'd bet money they wouldn't be above .500 or even in the 8th spot right now, much less the 2 seed.
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