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Old 03-19-2013, 10:17 AM   #61
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Default Re: This must be said: The Wire is overrated

Reading some of the replies here basically reaffirms my main point which most either ignored or simply didn't want to get.... "It's overrated!!!".

I am humored by the personal attacks and strawman attempts tho. I discovered things about me that I never knew before such as:

Beatles are my fav artist, something I never knew! I always thought that they were a one of my fav artists but not my fav of all time.

That apparently I am a Friends fan. I guess those 4 episodes that I forced myself to watch makes me a fan!!

I learned that admiring and respecting Radiohead makes my opinion on anything moot. I did not know this makes me a retard.

I also didn't know that enjoying Game of Thrones made it my fav current show. That's a revelation that I am happy to know about.

Who would've known that preferring BB over Wire made you a tool that is too dumb to understand anything that needs an IQ higher than that of a toddler.

All this time I thought shows such as Sopranos, OZ and even some network shows touched on many of these similar themes. I guess movies have also never been made that have pieces of characters, plot lines like the Wire.

At the end I guess saying a show is good isn't enough. Not only does it have to be the best crime drama show of all time, it has to be THE best show of all time!!! If you don't agree then you're no better than a Friends loving-Adam Sadler movie watching-low IQ idiot.
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:28 AM   #62
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Default Re: This must be said: The Wire is overrated

All this thread reaffirms is that you didn't understand anything about the show.

Literally every single insight in regards to the show you personally came up with was completely besides the point of the show. And this is not just me or your "haters" ( ) talking, literally everyone in the thread observed this.

You try to criticise the show based on it's content, but you completely fail to even identify said content. It's one of the most cringe inducing analyses I have ever seen.
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:33 AM   #63
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Default Re: This must be said: The Wire is overrated

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All this thread reaffirms is that you didn't understand anything about the show.

Literally every single insight in regards to the show you personally came up with was completely besides the point of the show. And this is not just me or your "haters" ( ) talking, literally everyone in the thread observed this.

You try to criticise the show based on it's content, but you completely fail to even identify said content. It's one of the most cringe inducing analyses I have ever seen.
Yeah I didn't understand anything because it was extremely deep. Almost every single one of the things mentioned that I supposedly didn't "get" I did. I think most of you are trying too hard.
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:40 AM   #64
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Almost every single one of the things mentioned that I supposedly didn't "get" I did.

Which is why you "got it" only after people mentioned it and completely failed to properly assert it on your own iniation.
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Old 03-19-2013, 10:42 AM   #65
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Default Re: This must be said: The Wire is overrated

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whether or not you're into it, the Wire can NOT be evaluated after one fukcing chapter. it's an epic story. it's not episodic.



I disagree. If he watched the first season, and didn't like it, what makes you think he's going to like Season 2 or Season 3? The topics change season to season, but the tone is the same.

The Wire is just not for him. Probably likes CSI or CSI Miami or CSI New York. Stick with those.
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Old 03-19-2013, 11:26 AM   #66
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Default Re: This must be said: The Wire is overrated

^^


well, i agree with you that he (or anyone) can decide if they don't like something (e.g., the Wire) after just a taste (e.g., one season).

no argument there.

but a small sample size isn't enough to properly evaluate something as 'worthwhile', 'overrated', or somewhere in between.
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Old 03-19-2013, 11:57 AM   #67
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Default Re: This must be said: The Wire is overrated

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I never watched Lost, but when you think Breaking Bad, The Wire, and The Sopranos aren't very good the problem isn't the shows.
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Old 03-19-2013, 12:02 PM   #68
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Default Re: This must be said: The Wire is overrated

Also have to LOL @ show's lack of "originality" when 90% of the characters are drawn from David Simon's actual experiences in Baltimore.
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Old 03-19-2013, 01:20 PM   #69
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Also have to LOL @ show's lack of "originality" when 90% of the characters are drawn from David Simon's actual experiences in Baltimore.

Don't forget Ed Burns. He was The Wire's secret weapon.

He spent 20 years as a cop then retired and became a school teacher. The Wire is much more about his experiences than Simon's. In fact season 5 which focused on the failures of the press and thus was based on David Simon's experiences was the weakest season.

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Burns was a producer, writer, and co-creator (also with Simon) of the HBO series The Wire. They originally set out to create a police drama loosely based on Burns' experiences working on protracted investigations of violent drug dealers using surveillance technology. He had often faced frustration with the bureaucracy of the police department, which Simon equated with his own ordeals as a police reporter for the Baltimore Sun. Writing against the background of current events, including institutionalized corporate crime at Enron and institutional dysfunction in the Catholic Church, the show became "more of a treatise about institutions and individuals than a straight cop show."[7]

David Simon obviously brought his own talents to The Wire, but Ed Burns is the real deal. I think both Burns and Simon come from religious traditions that teach that you can't give up on the poor. I know that watching The Wire, I was reminded of the best parts of Catholic moral teaching.

Here's an interview with him.
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I havent seen it but hate how much love it gets. No way its better than sopranos. I will start watching it next week.
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Default Re: This must be said: The Wire is overrated

Good show, but too many black people. I like Season 2 though. Less black people.
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It's really good, but I have no clue how anyone can say its better than The Sopranos.
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season 3 and 4 are up there in regards to best seasons of all shows all time.
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I havent seen it but hate how much love it gets. No way its better than sopranos. I will start watching it next week.

I absolutely loved the sopranos when i started watching it. I thought christopher was such a bad ass. After i finished the sopranos, i started the wire. It out shined the sopranos is every facet.
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I absolutely loved the sopranos when i started watching it. I thought christopher was such a bad ass. After i finished the sopranos, i started the wire. It out shined the sopranos is every facet.


This is where The Wire starts to get overrated. The Sopranos will forever be known and talked about. The Wire will be remembered by people that post on message boards and drive a Prius. Its a great show, but it isn't better than The Sopranos.
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