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Old 03-28-2013, 09:28 AM   #1
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Default Fracking potentially the cause of a 5.7 earthquake in Oklahoma.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21952428

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Scientists have linked the underground injection of oil-drilling wastewater to a magnitude-5.7 earthquake in 2011 that struck the US state of Oklahoma.

Wastewater injection from drilling operations has been linked to seismic events in the past, but these have typically been much smaller quakes.

They also have tended to occur in the first weeks or months of injection.

The study in Geology suggests that "induced seismicity" can occur years after wastewater injection begins.

Wastewater was first injected into Oklahoma's Wilzetta oilfields, near the town of Prague, some 18 years prior to the November 2011 series of quakes that included three of magnitude 5 or greater.

The new study adds to an increasing body of evidence that the injection of wastewater is correlated to an increase in seismic events.

A comprehensive review in 2012 by the US' National Academy of Sciences found that "injection for disposal of waste water derived from energy technologies into the subsurface does pose some risk for induced seismicity".

However, the report said the number of such documented events over several decades was small compared to the overall number of operations carried out.

In April 2012, a study by scientists at the US Geological Survey of the interior of the US found that events of magnitude 3 or greater had "abruptly increased in 2009" from 1.2 per year in the previous 50 years to more than 25 per year - although a number of gas and oil extraction methods may be implicated in the rise.

Link to the original article in Geology journal.
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:45 AM   #2
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However, the report said the number of such documented events over several decades was small compared to the overall number of operations carried out.

- since Millions of wells have been used for "Fracking" since the 1950's....

- may or may not have caused some minor seismic activity???...

- again...I ask...when looking at Human species needing energy.......who cares?

No Energy source is 100% safe......Fossil Fuels Right now and into the next 200 years is our only sure fire solution.

and comparing it to any other Energy source...it is very safe and cheap to acquire.

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Old 03-28-2013, 11:52 AM   #3
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Default Re: Fracking potentially the cause of a 5.7 earthquake in Oklahoma.

That's why I wrote "potentially" in the thread title. I'm not taking sides, I just read the article and thought it was interesting. As for who cares, I would say the people affected by the earthquake do care. From wiki:

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Early reports indicated that U.S. Route 62 had "buckled" in three locations and that several nearby homes had major damage and there were also numerous reports of broken windows and other minor damage, mostly to residences.[13] Some local residents reported minor masonry damage and a chimney collapsed at one residence, while a few residents near the epicenter reported a noise which sounded like thunder in the distance as the earthquake struck.[14] The Oklahoma Department of Emergency Management reported that 2 people suffered minor injuries, 14 homes had various levels of damage, and that Benedictine Hall at St. Gregory's University in Shawnee had one turret collapse and two others damaged, forcing the closure of the building.[15]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Ok...thquake#Damage

Although the damage wasn't that big, if there is an actual relation between hydraulic fracturing and seismic activity, we may be seeing more of these occurrences in the future.
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:57 AM   #4
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Default Re: Fracking potentially the cause of a 5.7 earthquake in Oklahoma.

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That's why I wrote "potentially" in the thread title. I'm not taking sides, I just read the article and thought it was interesting. As for who cares, I would say the people affected by the earthquake do care. From wiki:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Ok...thquake#Damage

Although the damage wasn't that big, if there is an actual relation between hydraulic fracturing and seismic activity, we may be seeing more of these occurrences in the future.


- Right....Thanks for the links.

- I agree....it sucks bieng in earthquakes.....I was in the 1989 Loma Prieta Earthquake ( and many more before 89' and after)

- but again, even if it does cause activity?.....then what?
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Default Re: Fracking potentially the cause of a 5.7 earthquake in Oklahoma.

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- since Millions of wells have been used for "Fracking" since the 1950's....

- may or may not have caused some minor seismic activity???...

- again...I ask...when looking at Human species needing energy.......who cares?

No Energy source is 100% safe......Fossil Fuels Right now and into the next 200 years is our only sure fire solution.

and comparing it to any other Energy source...it is very safe and cheap to acquire.



just to be clear, it is believed that wastewater injection is the cause of the earthquake, not the fracked wells themselves.
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Old 03-28-2013, 12:48 PM   #6
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Default Re: Fracking potentially the cause of a 5.7 earthquake in Oklahoma.

Nothing to see here lol.

Wasn't there one in southern Indiana or something stupid like that last year?
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Nothing to see here lol.

Wasn't there one in southern Indiana or something stupid like that last year?
Some people think so. The earthquake also happened within a few hours of some others in other states along the New Madrid Fault though. There's not much fracking done in Indiana at all.
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Default Re: Fracking potentially the cause of a 5.7 earthquake in Oklahoma.

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just to be clear, it is believed that wastewater injection is the cause of the earthquake, not the fracked wells themselves.


correct,

- the process of " injecting the water to cause fractures in the Rocks" is not causing the seismic activity.....

- The disposing of the water ( used to cause the fractures) back into the earth via pre drilled disposal wells may be the cause.

- any type of EOR produces mass amounts of salt water.....that needs to be put back into the earth.
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Default Re: Fracking potentially the cause of a 5.7 earthquake in Oklahoma.

It's amazing that people lack the brainpower to distinguish between fracking and wastewater injection. Media just likes to put the word fracking in there so people will read it.

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Default Re: Fracking potentially the cause of a 5.7 earthquake in Oklahoma.

from what i read recently, salt-water injections (or was it extractions?) for various industrial resource-gathering purposes are also a prime cause of sinkholes.

also, apparently there's a specialised industry of sinkhole EMT's who know exactly how to grout and stopper the problem such that it doesn't get carried away. otherwise if you're joseph shmoe, you just fill 'er in, pave over it, call it a good day... and then the problem repeats sometime later because you're only a shmoe, not an EMT.

so to speak.
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just to be clear, it is believed that wastewater injection is the cause of the earthquake, not the fracked wells themselves.
Of all people, I can't believe it's you to point this out, but thank you regardless. I came into this thread already knowing what the cause would be and ready to correct OP.
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Default Re: Fracking potentially the cause of a 5.7 earthquake in Oklahoma.

7000 people opening a letter and fainting at the same time can also cause a earthquake..........
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