Originally Posted by tpols
Kobe wouldve had more chances at scoring titles, MVPs, and other personal accolades if he didnt play with Shaq. And more rings[than the 2] as well since he proved he could lead a team to the title as the man.. twice and 3 straight finals trips.
01-07 Kobe was even better than the Kobe that did that.. so anythings possible.
Do scoring titles matter that much? And now we are just giving him the MVP?
See, this is my problem. What if he had to play on the kind of teams virtually every other player of this era other than him and Shaq have had to play on.
He's not winning many MVP's with average supporting casts.
I think we all got a really good look at how good Kobe was from 05 through 10...freed from Shaq.
Really really really ****ing great. But not on the level he thinks he is...and certainly not on the level his fans think he is.
Why play hypothetical. We saw the 06 Suns series. We saw the 05 regular season. We saw the 08 finals. Those are the kind of circumstances that are most common for other players that didn't have the great fortune Kobe did.
I think you'd see a lot more of that...unless he got paired up with the likes of KG and Dirk. And even then...winning titles from 01 through 07 would have been very difficult.